Just to add to what you said about IDE, I moved from MSVC++ to vim.  I had
to write my own make file,  big++ for future.
I eventually programmed my function keys to do
Make
Make clean
Make test
First error
Next error
Previous error
List all errors

It was no where as "nice" as mscv++ but after the transition, I will never
go back to an "ide"
On my pc now I use cygwin for all my unix compatible work, which is my
entire world.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Aaron Griffin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2006 12:50 PM
> To: Brecht Machiels
> Cc: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: C++ IDE
> 
> On 10/5/06, Brecht Machiels <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > But as I'm probably not the first to try to use Vim as an IDE
> 
> No, you're not.  The issue is not that you're trying to use 
> vim as an IDE, it is that you're trying to use vim as Eclipse.
> Define "IDE".
> 
> When I use vim as "an IDE", I use things like ctags to jump 
> around files, change things here and there, run :make, etc 
> etc  taglist is nice.  So are clewn/vimgdb, but not as much 
> as raw gdb.
> 
> Now, if you want vim to write makefiles and things for you, 
> that's another story.  I have a feeling this is what you want 
> - a step to integrate "build these files".  Things like 
> Eclipse / Visual Studio have a "files listing" which is used 
> to know which files to compile / embed / whatever.  make does 
> this just fine, and better, IMO, but requires you to write a Makefile.
> 
> I guess I could answer better if you defined what an IDE is 
> to you.  I get mixed answers on this when I ask people.  In 
> short: you are trying to use vim like tools you are used to.  
> It doesn't work that way.  vim is vim.  It is not Eclipse.
> 

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