Edward L. Fox wrote:
> Hi Bram,
>
> Sorry for sending mail in HTML format, as the following content has 
> some images to display.
>
> Do you think we should deprecate the build-in Hangul supporting since 
> the next version of VIM? So far as I know, the Hangul supporting 
> conflicted with XIM module, which is more useful for Asian users. 
> That's why the official Vim pre-built binary never enable this option. 
> Some Korean users also noticed that the latest sources couldn't be 
> built with this option enabled. I think all the users will use input 
> method later, so I'd like to disable the "Hangul automata" from now on.
>
> And if possible, we could also supply a Hangul input method by using 
> the keymap mechanism, just like the kana (Japanese letters) keymap 
> ported by me. I know nothing about Korean so I hope any Korean friend 
> could help me with this issue.
>
>
> Best regards,
>
> Edward L. Fox
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: *Kiwon Um* <[EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>>
> Date: Aug 3, 2007 7:42 PM
> Subject: Re: VIM 7.1 compilation error
> To: "Edward L. Fox" <[EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>>
>
> Hi Edward.
> Thanks for reply.
>
> Edward L. Fox wrote:
>> Hi Kiwon,
>>
>> On 8/3/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>   
>>> Thanks Edward.
>>>
>>> It works just in compiling manner, not actual.
>>> Hangul inputting is incorrect, all is shown as broken characters.
>>>     
>> Sorry but I know nothing about Hangul input. Could you give me a brief
>> introduction of the basic usage of Hangul input? That is, how do I set
>> up the Hangul input and what result is expected? Then I could do some
>> basic debugging about this problem.
>>
>> Any way, as the Vim build-in Hangul input conflicts with XIM
>> interface, I think you'd better enable XIM interface rather than
>> Hangul interface, then you could use some more powerful input method
>> engine such as SCIM instead.
>>   
> I append two figures to compare between with "--enable-hangulinput" 
> option and without. (I just captured two screen shots.)
> In good case, i.e. without "--enable-hangulinput"option, the result is 
> as follow:
>
>     good(In this case, I used "SCIM")
>
> In bad case, i.e. with that option, the result is as follow:
>
>     bad
>
> VIM with SCIM is works quite well.
> So.. just in my opinion, the next version of VIM might not need to 
> have even that configure option.
> It rather makes some user, like me, confused.
>>> By the way, what does the "bottom-posting or interlaced-posting" mean?
>>> Is it "Reply to Author"?
>>>     
>> FYI
>>
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style
>>   
> Like this style, what I'm writing down, huh? :-)
>>> Sorry for bothering you.  I'm just first time here.
>>>     
>> Just feel free to post any thing here. All people here are very
>> friendly. But you should obey the basic rules and the principles here.
>> For example, bottom-posting. :-)
>>   
> I didn't know if that was really rule.
> Anyhow I know now. :-)
>>   
>>> Best regards,
>>> Kiwon Um
>>> [...]
>>>     
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Edward L. Fox
>>   
> Thanks again.
>
> Best regards,
> Kiwon Um
>
>
> >
Hi, Edward.

You told about getting rid of built-in Hangul input feature from vim.
I'm afraid that I don't feel like getting it out of vim.
There are a lot of systems where XIM is not available at all out there.

For example, at my office, we run a bunch of "servers".
I just ssh to one of them and set DISPLAY environment variable to point 
to my local laptop which runs Ubuntu linux.
And then I run gvim to edit source codes.

Systems like AIX, True64, Solaris, SunOS, HP-UX, and older versions of 
RedHat linux does not even have GTK.

In those system, I don't seem to have many choices.
I MUST compile vim enabling hangulinput feature and then use it to
type in Hangul.
It would never be enough to stress the necessity and the importance of 
that feature for Koreans.
I would be devastated if that feature is to removed :'O

Regards,
Shawn.

P.S. Personally, using XIM with vim is kind of confusing.
If you were typing Hangul in input mode, and then you escape from that 
mode by pressing upon ESC,
XIM is still in Hangul input mode. So, any of your comands won't work 
until you switch to English input mode by
pressing Shift+Space. It is very unconvinient and confusing.
As it seems that I can seem to control XIM out of it, like sending 
signal or something, for me,
it is just more appreciated using hangulinput feature. :-)



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