Ingo Karkat wrote:
> On 19-Dec-2010 17:14, Dominique Pellé wrote:
> > Bram Moolenaar wrote:
> >
> >> Thanks. I think we also need to explain the date format. How about
> >> this:
> >>
> >> The "when" column is the date and time when this
> >> change was made. The four possible formats are:
> >> N seconds ago
> >> HH:MM:SS hour, minute, seconds
> >> MM/DD HH:MM:SS idem, with month and day
> >> YYYY/MM/DD HH:MM:SS idem, with year
> >>
> >> And to reflect that in the example:
> >>
> >> number changes when saved ~
> >> 88 88 2010/01/04 14:25:53
> >> 108 107 08/07 12:47:51
> >> 136 46 13:33:01 7
> >> 166 164 3 seconds ago
> >>
> >> First one to actually get the year to show up gets a lolly :-).
> >
> > That's better indeed.
> >
> > One correction though: in source vim/src/undo.c:2887, I see
> > that the format when file is older than ~6 months is:
> > "%y/%m/%d %H:%M:%S".
> >
> > According to "man strftime", %y is the year _without_ the
> > century (i.e. range 00 to 99). So help file should say
> > YY/MM/DD HH:MM:SS rather than YYYY/MM/DD HH:MM:SS.
> >
> > Or perhaps it's better to use format %Y rather than %y in
> > undo.c:2887 to show a 4 digits date. Who knows, someone
> > might thank you for that in 100 years.
>
> Please forgive my ignorance; I don't know much about the Vim sources
> yet. But I'm wondering why the date format is hard-coded (to some
> US-English format) at all. Shouldn't something like %c / %X be used,
> so that the format is determined by the user's locale? Our
> international users will thank us for that.
The format is international, it is the only one that's accepted
worldwide and doesn't need configuration to work correctly.
Configurations often get to be wrong and users waste time correcting
that (how many times did I have to change "11:00 pm" to "22:00" by
diving deep into menus?). And how many people know what 0:00 am and
0:00 pm mean?
> The only downside would be that the MM/DD "middle" option wouldn't be
> easily available (well, one could somehow substitute away the year
> from the full format), and that parsing of the command's output in
> scripts would be more complex. (I assume that scripts would
> temporarily do :lang time C to get a fixed format, and then restore
> the user's setting.)
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