On Jan 5, 10:19 pm, Bram Moolenaar <[email protected]> wrote:
> Olaf wrote:
> > On Wed 04 Jan 2012 at 10:42:35 -0200, Niels Horn wrote:
> > > So, maybe technically "Netherlands" is correct, but the large majority
> > > of the rest of this planet will always call it "Holland" :)
>
> > My personal reason for prefering The Netherlands, or variants of that,
> > is that Holland would refer only to two of the 12 provinces of the
> > country (Noord-Holland and Zuid-Holland or North and South Holland). And
> > I don't live in either of them. It's like calling Great Britain England.
>
> > Historically the two Hollands are among the most "important" provinces
> > because that's more or less where the impressive people came from when,
> > a few centuries ago, history was written. Zeeland was another one. Most
> > of the rest has a convoluted history of what belonged to who. And of
> > course Holland seems to be easier to pronounce than The Ne Ther Lands :-)
>
> Wikipedia sums it up quite nicely:
>
>    Holland is a name in common usage given to a region in the western
>    part of the Netherlands. The term Holland is also frequently used as
>    a pars pro toto to refer to the whole of the Netherlands. This usage
>    is generally accepted but disliked by many Dutch people in the other
>    parts of the Netherlands.
>
> It's funny that many people who live in the Netherlands would not deny
> being a Hollander, even if they do not live in North- or South-Holland.
> And especially during a soccer match against Germany :-).
>
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Interesting, now I came to know why English text books often call The
Netherlands but rarely Holland.

Looks like Holland is the upper-left corner of the map of The
Netherlands, making me recall the Puget Sound (pronounced like pyudjet
sound) and King County in the US, which was on the upper-left of US.
Well that was the place of my first visiting abroad and I wondered do
they call a lake connected to the sea a "Sound"?

:)

WBR,
Robbie (Decheng) Fan

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