Ken Takata wrote:
> Hi,
>
> 2013/10/08 Tue 6:21:22 UTC+9 Bram Moolenaar wrote:
> > Tony Mechelynck wrote:
> >
> > > On 07/10/13 14:02, Ken Takata wrote:
> > > > Hi,
> > > >
> > > > I wrote a patch for the following items from todo.txt:
> > > >
> > > >> Have an option for spell checking to not mark any Chinese, Japanese or
> > > >> other
> > > >> double-width characters as error. Or perhaps all characters above 256.
> > > >> (Bill Sun) Helps a lot for mixed Asian and latin text.
> > > >
> > > >> - have some way not to give spelling errors for a range of
> > > >> characters.
> > > >> E.g. for Chinese and other languages with specific characters for
> > > >> which we
> > > >> don't have a spell file. Useful when there is also text in other
> > > >> languages in the file.
> > > >
> > > > When I write mixed Japanese and English text, it really annoys me.
> > > > Current Vim's spell checking algorithm doesn't support Chinese,
> > > > Japanese or
> > > > other East Asian languages. So I just exclude these characters from
> > > > spell
> > > > checking. (No options)
> > > > Please check the attached patch.
> > > >
> > > > Regards,
> > > > Ken Takata
> > > >
> > >
> > > "All characters above 256" would seem a little rash IMHO: after all,
> > > Russian, Ukrainian, Bulgarian, Greek, etc. can (or should be able to)
> > > use spell checking even though their writing systems are entirely above
> > > U+00FF, and even in Latin script, some French nouns such as �il (eye),
> > > �uf (egg), b�uf (ox or beef), �il-de-b�uf (a small round window), v�u
> > > (wish), �dipe (Oedipus), �sophage (oesophagus), etc., use characters
> > > (the oe / OE digraphs, which in French are one character each) above
> > > U+00FF. Similarly for the accented letters of non-West-European
> > > languages, many of which fall outside tha Latin1 range.
> > >
> > > I suppose that excluding CJK is the right thing to do, since the nearest
> > > thing to "spell checking" for handwritten CJK would mean checking that
> > > the correct brush strokes were used, but "wrong" brush stroke
> > > combinations (other than simplified vs. traditional glyphs, or than
> > > Japanese "national" /kokuji/ characters in a Chinese text, etc.) cannot
> > > be produced as computer text even in Unicode; or else it might mean
> > > checking that word elements ("Han syllables") are meaningfully combined,
> > > which IMHO is more akin to checking semantics or syntax than orthography.
> >
> > I was wondering if this should be an option or a spell setting of some
> > kind. So, you argue that we won't every have useful spell checking for
> > CJK characters, so we should just ignore them.
> >
> > What if if have some text in a language that is spell checked, and by
> > some mistake a few CJK characters show up (copy/paste error, encoding
> > conversion mistake, etc.). Then they should be marked as errors right?
> >
> > For me, I ocasionally get these characters when an Asian name is used.
> > I don't really care if that is highlighted as an error or not (can't
> > read it anyway). Other names are marked as errors, so perhaps foreign
> > names should be as well?
> >
> > Following that line of thinking it should be an option. Perhaps a
> > special entry in 'spelllang' "cjk" ?
>
> My previous patch excludes only CJK characters not "All characters above 256".
> But I agree that checking CJK characters is useful for some kind of mistakes.
> How about adding "nocjk" in 'spelllang'? For example, if you want to check
> English but exclude CJK chars:
> :set spelllang=en,nocjk
>
> Please check the attached patch.
> (I also merged my another patch:
> https://groups.google.com/d/msg/vim_dev/UxuwQaj1HAc/BvjwIJg6WGIJ )
Thanks. "nocjk" is a bit strange, the other entries in 'spelllang'
specify languages for which words will be recognized and not marked as
errors. I suggested "cjk" as it would see all CJK letters as OK.
Perhaps "ignore-cjk" would be clearer, but it's a bit long.
I don't think there will ever be a "cjk" language, thus there should be
no reason to avoid that in case we do get a "cjk" spell checker.
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