On 31-Jan-16, Tony Mechelynck wrote: > (When writing to Japanese posters, I never know which is the given > name and which is the family name: I know that the Japanese custom is > to put the family name first, but some Japanese people reverse their > names when writing to "Western" people and some not, and I never know > which is which. Please pardon me if I erred.)
That confusion is partly due to the Ministry of Education of Japanese government and partly due to Gmail. Since Japan (was forced to) established diplomatic relations with Western countries in 1850’s (except the Netherlands; it was the only European country with which Japan had been keeping the formal diplomatic relations during the era when shoguns and samurai ruled the country), one’s given name has been put first and the family name last when her/his name is written in European languages. Japanese children had been taught as such in school for more than 100 years. Around the beginning of this century, the Ministry asked textbook publishers to restore our traditional name order in their English textbooks so that the children would “show respect for local cultures.” Since then, some Japanese people began using the Japanese name order when writing their names in European languages. But news media around the world and many Japanese (including me) are still using the given-name-first order. FYI, when the Japanese prime minister, Shinzo Abe, who is often described as a nationalist in the Western media, visited the White House and the Congress last year, this head of Japanese government didn’t ask the US to call him “Abe Shinzo.” :p As for Gmail, I signed in with my given name Kazunobu and family name Kuriyama, expecting the name is shown in this order. To my surprise, by default, Gmail “kindly” reverses the order for the Japanese users. So I was very upset at my first gmails showing my name in the unexpected order! As explained above, the confusion is caused by Japanese government. Needless to say, Japanese people is ultimately responsible for that. So, I think the rest of the world needn’t care about that :) As far as this list is concerned, it looks to me that Japanese regular participants use the given-name-first order. If not, my apologies to you. Cheers, Kazunobu Kuriyama 2016-01-31 12:16 GMT+09:00 Tony Mechelynck <[email protected]>: > On Sun, Jan 31, 2016 at 2:35 AM, h_east <[email protected]> wrote: > > Hi Tony, > > > > 2016-1-31(Sun) 10:14:15 UTC+9 Tony Mechelynck: > >> (When writing to Japanese posters, I never know which is the given > >> name and which is the family name: I know that the Japanese custom is > >> to put the family name first, but some Japanese people reverse their > >> names when writing to "Western" people and some not, and I never know > >> which is which. Please pardon me if I erred.) > > > > Please be assured that does not attack even by mistake :-) > > My family name is Higashi. It means the east in English. > > > >> > >> On Sun, Jan 31, 2016 at 1:55 AM, h_east <[email protected]> wrote: > >> > Hi Tony, > >> > > >> > 2016-1-31(Sun) 8:21:26 UTC+9 Tony Mechelynck: > >> >> At patchlevel 7.4.1219, I see the following messages in Tiny compile > >> >> but not in Huge. They "may" be due to a different (recent but > earlier) > >> >> patchlevel: > >> >> > >> >> gcc -c -I. -Iproto -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -O2 -fno-strength-reduce -Wall > >> >> -U_FORTIFY_SOURCE -D_FORTIFY_SOURCE=1 -o objects/ex_cmds.o > >> >> ex_cmds.c > >> >> ex_cmds.c: In function ‘ex_helptags’: > >> >> ex_cmds.c:6600:14: warning: unused variable ‘files’ > [-Wunused-variable] > >> >> char_u **files; > >> >> ^ > >> >> ex_cmds.c:6599:10: warning: unused variable ‘filecount’ > [-Wunused-variable] > >> >> int filecount; > >> >> ^ > >> >> ex_cmds.c:6598:12: warning: unused variable ‘fname’ > [-Wunused-variable] > >> >> char_u fname[8]; > >> >> ^ > >> >> ex_cmds.c:6597:12: warning: unused variable ‘ext’ [-Wunused-variable] > >> >> char_u ext[5]; > >> >> ^ > >> >> ex_cmds.c:6591:10: warning: unused variable ‘len’ [-Wunused-variable] > >> >> int len; > >> >> ^ > >> >> ex_cmds.c:6590:13: warning: unused variable ‘j’ [-Wunused-variable] > >> >> int i, j; > >> >> ^ > >> >> ex_cmds.c:6590:10: warning: unused variable ‘i’ [-Wunused-variable] > >> >> int i, j; > >> >> ^ > >> >> ex_cmds.c:6589:14: warning: unused variable ‘ga’ [-Wunused-variable] > >> >> garray_T ga; > >> >> ^ > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> I don't know why the message seem to be produced in random order > >> >> relative to the source. I suppose that there are missing #ifdef > lines, > >> >> and that the resulting executable will be OK. > >> > > >> > I reproduce it. > >> > An attached patch fixing this. > >> > >> Dear Hirohito, maybe you attached a patch, but it wasn't in the > >> message which reached me. > > > > Oops, Now surely attached. > > Thanks. > > -- > > Best regards, > > Hirohito Higashi (a.k.a h_east) > > > With this patch applied, the Tiny build compiles with no warnings. Thanks! > > > Best regards, > Tony. > > -- > -- > You received this message from the "vim_dev" maillist. > Do not top-post! 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