Lcd wrote:

> On 3 February 2016, Christian Brabandt <[email protected]> wrote:
> > On Mi, 03 Feb 2016, LCD 47 wrote:
> >
> > > On 3 February 2016, Bram Moolenaar <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Lcd wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > On 3 February 2016, Danek Duvall <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > > > [...]
> > > > > > I think the most reliable thing to do here is to have a way to
> > > > > > know the pid and kill it directly, but since ! goes through
> > > > > > a shell, you don't have any way of knowing what the pid of
> > > > > > test_channel.py is.
> > > > >
> > > > >     Or just make the server write its PID to a file with an
> > > > > unique name.  This is still not ideal, but it's probably good
> > > > > enough for tests.
> > > >
> > > > Like we do for the port number.  OK, that can work for now.  But
> > > > we need job control functionality anyway.  We should use that once
> > > > it's implemented.
> > > >
> > > > Vim can already start jobs, but currently always waits for them
> > > > to finish (with "!cmd" or system("cmd")).  Should not be too
> > > > difficult to run a job in the background and get its PID.  At
> > > > least on Unix, not sure about MS-Windows.
> > >
> > >     Sure, job control is long overdue, but IMO it wouldn't be
> > > simple.
> >
> > BTW: is it just me, or does it feel like rushing to integrate job
> > control now? I mean, its not like we don't have enough bugs waiting to
> > be fixed and it feels like integrating jobcontrol now into Vim is like
> > opening a whole new can of worms.
> >
> > I apologize if I sounded overly pessimistic or un ungrateful. I really
> > enjoy the momentum that development currently gains, but perhaps those
> > patches should be integrated at the beginning of the 7.5 cycle, so
> > they have some time to flesh out correctly.
> 
>     +1, getting job control right is likely to take many patches, maybe
> an entire major version all by itself.

Not if we limit the functionality.  We already have ":!cmd" fully
implemented, just need another way to interface with that code.

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