On Sat, Mar 12, 2022 at 10:59:57AM +0000, Bram Moolenaar wrote: > > James McCoy wrote: > > > > > Patch 8.2.4527 > > > > Problem: The Athena GUI is old and does not work well. > > > > Solution: Remove the Athena GUI from configure to find out who still > > > > wants > > > > support for this GUI. > > > > Files: src/configure.ac, src/auto/configure, src/Makefile > > > > > > Perhaps the NeXtaw GUI should also be removed. It's basically the same > > > as Athena with some nicer looking widgets. Opinions? > > > > FWIW, here's some data about "old" GUI support on the Debian side. > > > > We started providing a lesstif-based package around 2003. In 2011, we > > switched to using Athena for the non-GTK/Gnome based GUI (for reasons I > > don't recall). > > I wonder why the lesstif library is still used. Perhaps because nobody > bothered to switch it to the now LGPM Motif libraries?
We dropped the lesstif package before Motif was released as LGPL. > > Based on Debian's "Popularity Contest"[0] stats, vim-athena has around > > twice[1] the amount of active users that vim-lesstif ever did. However, > > that's still quite the minority (147 / 42,086 [2]) of people that have > > some Vim version installed, as correlated by having vim-common > > installed. > > > > For GUI users[3], it's 147 Athena to 3128 GTK, so still pretty small but > > not quite as bad. > > > > I guess it's time to either transition those folks back to a Motif GUI > > or drop the non-GTK GUI from Debian. > > Is there a good reason to not want the Motif version, or does this just > require some encouragement for someone to setup the packages? Since people do seem to still be using the non-GTK package, I likely will add a Motif version and transition the Athena users to it. > You do not mention it explicitly, but there is no package with the > NeXtaw library? Correct. As far as I know, Debian doesn't have neXtaw packaged. Cheers, -- James GPG Key: 4096R/91BF BF4D 6956 BD5D F7B7 2D23 DFE6 91AE 331B A3DB -- -- You received this message from the "vim_dev" maillist. Do not top-post! Type your reply below the text you are replying to. For more information, visit http://www.vim.org/maillist.php --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "vim_dev" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/vim_dev/20220312180223.mwgpyfzhdenegasr%40localhost.
