Ben,

On So, 13 Aug 2023, Ben Fritz wrote:

> Thanks for the CC and I'm certainly very sad to have seen the news about Bram.
> 
> And thank you Christian for taking on this leadership role. Yegappan,
> Dominique, mattn, and zeertzjq: thanks to you guys too. It's comforting
> to see Vim remains in good hands.

We'll try our best.

> You're right, I have gone mostly inactive on the project and it probably
> makes sense to take me off the mailing list managers group. You don't
> *need* to take me off it, but I will probably not become active enough
> to be an effective moderator/list manager in the near-term. In the
> longer term, if I do end up finding time to become more active, I work
> in InfoSec so I might be able to contribute to the huntr.dev project. I
> wasn't aware that existed! I'll reach out on that at some other time.

Sounds good. It's always sad, to see some long-time contributors 
missing, so if you ever want to become more active, you are certainly 
welcomed back ;)

> Something I don't see mentioned in this email is the scan.coverity.com
> project for Vim at https://scan.coverity.com/projects/vim. It looks like
> you and Dominique are currently the project admins there, do we need to
> add a few more (probably everyone in the GitHub organization)? I wonder
> if it is possible to set the organization as admin over there, since
> there is a "login with GitHub" feature.

Yeah, I did not mention this because I forgot. Anyhow, Dominique and me 
are also admins, so we should be good here.

> I am still interested in maintaining the TOhtml plugin for which I am
> the official maintainer, if Vim's development model continues to have
> separate maintainers for the distributed plugins. However I will
> understand if it is given over to someone more active (or if project
> leadership wants a co-maintainer) as I have not been able to contribute
> more than a couple bugfixes for the last few years. I have not sent any
> unreleased updates to Bram.

I haven't seen any complaints/issues for the TOhtml plugin, so I think 
we are good here, even so it may need some love to e.g. support popups 
or virtual text. Not sure if this would be easily addable to a plugin 
(or even makes sense).

> If Vim development moves away from separate maintainers for the various
> plugins, or if someone ends up taking over, I have been maintaining
> TOhtml over at SourceForge where there is still free Mercurial hosting.
> This project contains some automated testing (using Vim's own test
> framework) which I have been slowly building with each feature addition
> and bugfix, and should be part of however the script is maintained in
> the future: https://sourceforge.net/projects/vim-tohtml/
> 
> If we continue with individual developers, how does the project want to
> continue receiving updates? In the past, I would email a zip file
> directly to Bram containing whole files. Sometimes I would CC the vim_dev
> list. I believe this is how most plugin maintainers were contributing
> updates. For now, is it best to just email whole files to vim_dev in the
> same way? My apologies if this has already been addressed in another
> thread. I didn't see anything while  browsing through the list to check,
> but as noted above I haven't been very active of late so I may have
> missed something.

I don't want to change the current runtime maintainership at all. I 
think it is fine. The only thing I am considering is to make 
bulk-updates easier, even so this adds a bit of burden to the individual 
runtime files maintainers. But I hope that is okay. In any case, if you 
want to send updates, I'd recommend to send PR at the github 
organization, but sending complete files to vim-dev or me will also 
work.


Thanks Ben and hope to hear back from you ;)
Christian
-- 
The human race is a race of cowards; and I am not only marching in that
procession but carrying a banner.
                -- Mark Twain

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