Hi all together,

taking Erics mail one could see that, especially for those not very used to 
command line 'vim', some errors are presented in a way that, in first place, 
hides them. Namely in "Konsole.app", i.e. Mac OS captures them from STDERR to 
system log and the user needs to know he's supposed to open "Konsole.app" to 
actually see them.

Albeit this is not wrong, maybe there's some room for improvement.

What I'm questioning myself is: would it be not only possible, but maybe even a 
good idea, to capture the output of STDERR of 'vim' startup and present it to 
the user?
I mean, if I start 'vim' in a terminal I'm presented with STDERR messages 
directly. But if MacVim starts 'vim' as sub process to be able to work, 
couldn't (and shouldn't?) it than do something similar the terminal does to me: 
present me error messages that occurred when it tried to "do it's job"?

Sure, telling people to just have a look at "Konsole.app" and search for "Vim" 
or "MacVim" is pretty easy.
But as we've seen people don't know when to look there, especially if no hint 
of "an error occurred during startup" is given.

Just my 2 cents, but what is the rest of you thinking?
-- 
Regards,

Peter

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