On 20/02/09 10:11, John Little wrote:
>
> On Feb 18, 4:48 am, Tony Mechelynck<[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>> If someone, be he named Dijkstra or
>> anything else, tries to tell me in what languages I "may" program and to
>> put his "laws" to execution, I shall treat him as an oppressor. You
>> Vimmers be the judges of whether the years I spent programming mostly in
>> COBOL (and some in assembly language) crippled my mind.
>
> Having suffered the same fate, but more importantly seen the crippling
> effects on others, I must allow that he (Dijkstra) has, or had, a
> point. Perhaps I have a "that which did not kill me, made me stronger"
> attitude, but "crippling" is not too string a word for some former
> colleagues, particularly cobol-74.
>
> Regards, John

My "political opinion" is that you're free to cripple your _own_ mind as 
much as you want, as long as you don't do harm to _others_. So the 
criminal offence, if any (which remains to be seen), might be _teaching_ 
COBOL or _requiring_ its use, but not _using_ it. BTW, I didn't notice 
any crippling effect of COBOL-60 (or of whatever standard we were 
following in 69 or so) on my colleagues' minds. I'd say Dijkstra had the 
parochial view of a C-only programmer, and when I want to produce 
nice-looking reports, I'd say COBOL wins hands down over C every time. 
If you say COBOL-74 was different from "my" COBOL in crippling terms, I 
have to defer to you. Was COBOL-74 freeform already? Or was it only the 
result of the "structured programming" fashion wave which tended to 
eliminate all GO TO statements from COBOL, even those targeting the EXIT 
paragraph at the end of a called subroutine? "My" COBOL was fixed-form 
and with-GO-TO, but we had a head programmer who strongly disliked 
"spaghetti style" and enforced a "house style" which was quite readable 
IMHO.


Best regards,
Tony.
-- 
You need no longer worry about the future.  This time tomorrow you'll
be dead.

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