The accounting of startup time gives us a lot of complications. The greatest
one is the inequality of the users with different hardware setups. I think
it's not good for editors war.
Pavel

On Tue, Aug 3, 2010 at 1:55 PM, tommed <[email protected]> wrote:

> Hi Marc,
>
> With regard to cheating; it doesn't matter what we say (eg. "use a
> camcorder and have a clock in view") there will always be ways to
> cheat at games! Because we don't currently have any prizes; I'm hoping
> that people will realise there isn't really much to be made by
> cheating!!
>
> Also, the transcripts should help us decide whether or not what they
> are doing is possible in the time they are doing it.
>
> I have been thinking of whether or not we should start the timer from
> opening the file; or from the text editor fully loaded. I realise that
> a lot of the heavy-duty IDEs will have features that are only possible
> due to their massive size... I can see arguments on both sides, so we
> can probably figure this out through trial an error?
>
> Because the challenges will vary so much; the large IDEs will
> obviously not always be the ideal tool; but I think if we took the
> time to start the IDE into consideration; Eclipse and Visual Studios
> will probably be completely out of the equation... however, may be
> they should be as we have to wait for them to load anyway before we
> use them in real-life situations..? (One of the reasons I switched
> from Visual Studios to VIM at work anyway!)
>
> I'd say for now, we could probably start with the text file open, but
> then play it by ear?
>
>
> On Aug 3, 10:40 am, Marc Weber <[email protected]> wrote:
> > Excerpts from tommed's message of Tue Aug 03 11:12:27 +0200 2010:
> >
> > > Great feedback, many thanks!
> > > I have just updated the site, taking your excellent suggestions on
> > > board.
> >
> > quote:
> >
> > 1) You MUST use a default install (iow. no custom scripts or
> modifications)
> > of the text editor of your choice
> >
> > 2) You may use any version of the text editor (vi/vim/gvim/gnu
> > emacs/xemacs/nano/ed/pico etc..), we even welcome users of Notepad,
> > Eclipse, and Visual Studio!!
> >
> > Which operating System? Eg Linux has different versions of Vim.
> > huge vim (with X and scripting support for Ruby, Python, ..)
> > or tiny vim without X, without quickfix, without ...
> >
> > You're looking for masters - but they all have custom scripts.
> >
> > If it comes to Eclipse: When does the time tacking start?
> > When you start the Editor, or when it already started.
> > When using Eclipse this may make a difference.
> >
> > 6) Upload your video to YouTube and post the URL as a response on our
> > site
> >
> > How do you catch people speeding up their videos? I mean is there any
> > chance that this competition is fair? Or will the man / woman win who
> > can best postprocess the video before uploading it to YouTube?
> >
> > Also in both: emacs and vim you can easily copy paste a clipboard to get
> > scripts you want.
> > eg :call writefile('my.vim',[lines])| source my.vim
> >
> > Is this allowed?
> >
> > Marc Weber
>
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