On 17/08/10 19:58, Benjamin R. Haskell wrote:
On Tue, 17 Aug 2010, Tony Mechelynck wrote:
On 17/08/10 10:52, aleCodd wrote:
ive been a user for months and even helped out many times, i dont
see any justification that i have to wait days before my messages
get approved.. for example now i posted a question and i wanted to
reply to somebody help but guess what? i have to wait another day
for this message to go through..so i would be able hopefully get an
answer by the end of the year...
stop the insanity!!!
Sorry, but it's "been there done that". The list used to be
unmoderated, and the result was spamming. Nowadays you see the
messages from whitelisted users, and you see the messages which the
moderators passed from first-time posters, what you don't see is the
spam; and as a moderator, my estimate is that among first-time
posters, about 50% are spammers. "The insanity" would be the porn and
"internet pharmacy" spew you would get if the list returned to
unmoderated status.
But aleCodd/ale has posted multiple times in the past. What does it
take to become a "whitelisted user"? Or are you speaking generally when
referring to "whitelisted users" and "first-time posters"?
I was speaking in general. Normally, a first post (not from a given
person but from a given email address) is "moderated" until some human
moderator has ascertained that it is either spam (and banned
[blacklisted] the sender) or legitimate (and authorised [whitelisted]
him). In dubious cases, individual messages may be allowed or blocked
without taking the author off moderation, but that is exceptional — the
fewer posts we have to moderate the better.
If he posted multiple times in the past (other than the handful of
messages which I authorized together with the one at the head of this
thread) it must have been from a different email address.
On the flip side, I don't think you (aleCodd) are helping yourself by
using an email address consisting of a number (33) and a popular website
unrelated to the current list (facebook), and hosted at a huge email
provider (gmail). Depending on what kind of interface the moderators
have, it could be pretty easy to pass that over as spam.
I don't know the details of how John and Raúl do it, but I look first at
the Subject line: in most cases it is enough to know if the message is
legitimate or spam. If still in doubt, I check the text of the message.
I pass no judgment on what the author's From-line consists of — unless
it is blatantly porn.
Best regards,
Tony.
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