see my interspersed comments, especially at the bottom


On 13/12/11 11:50, Paul Maier wrote:

Hi,

German message output is broken when encoding=UTF-8.
Maybe calls to convert messages to the current encoding (see :help iconv) are 
missing in the code?

To reproduce here are 2 examples among many others:


1. example:

     - open new gvim
     - :set enc=UTF-8
     - :set enc=lalala    ... something invalid

     I get:
       E474: Ung<fc>ltiges Argument: enc=lalala
     I expect:
       E474: Ungültiges Argument: enc=lalala


2. example:

     - open new gvim
     - :set enc=UTF-8
     - :set bomb
     - i<Enter><Esc>       ... enter a newline to make the buffer not empty
     - g<C-G>              ... g CONTROL-G

     I get:
       Sp 1 von 0; Zeile 2 von 2; Wort 0 von 0; Byte 4 von 4(+3 f<fc>r BOM)
     I expect:
       Sp 1 von 0; Zeile 2 von 2; Wort 0 von 0; Byte 4 von 4(+3 für BOM)


I use:

:version
VIM - Vi IMproved 7.3 (2010 Aug 15, compiled Oct 27 2010 17:59:02)
MS-Windows 32 Bit GUI Version mit OLE-Unterstützung
Inklusive der Korrekturen: 1-46
Übersetzt    von Bram@KIBAALE


When enc is latin1, all messages display fine.

Thanks&    regards,
     Paul



If you were running under Linux I would suggest

        lang mess de_DE.UTF-8

but beware that the placement of this command before or after not only
":set enc=utf-8" but also ":filetype [plugin] [indent] on" and ":syntax
on" (and the relative placement of these) makes a difference.

Under Windows I'm less sure; maybe something like

        lang mess German_Germany.10646

Same caveats as above about command ordering.




Hi!

Sorry, your hint didn't change anything, but I found, that it's working
for Spanish:

:set enc=utf-8
:lang mess es
Este es el cambio más nuevo
=>   WORKS FINE! "á" (Hex 00e1) is printed out fine.

:lang mess fr
D<e9>j<e0>   <e0>   la modification la plus r<e9>cente
:lang mess de
Bereits bei der j<fc>ngsten<c4>nderung
=>   ENCODING PROBLEMS!


But when I set to :enc=latin1, then it's VICE VERSA:
German and French working, but Spanish not:

:set enc=latin1
:lang mess es
Este es el cambio más nuevo
=>   Looks like UTF-8 here.


Are the messages for German and French coded in latin1,
and for Spanish in UTF-8?

I agree, there needs to be some translation from the encoding of the message
to the encoding currently in use.
But how?
Is it something that I can configure, or is it a vim coding problem?

I found out that in Cygwin's vim and Cygwin's gvim the German messages display
fine for both settings, enc=utf-8 and enc=latin1 (without that I did anything).

Thanks&   Regards,
    Paul




Did you try the _full_ three-part locale, language_COUNTRY.encoding,
where (IIUC) under Windows "encoding" is a numeric codepage, 10646 for
Unicode? For German, my guess was

        lang mess German_Germany.10646

where 10646 (from ISO/IEC 10646) is the Windows codepage for Unicode.
Did you try it? Did you try varying the order of

        :language messages ...
        :set enc=...
        :filetype ...
        :syntax on

? (The latter two set up the menus, which are also influenced by the
"messages" language.)

N.B. When I was on Windows some years ago, my system locale (as set by
the OS) was French_Belgium.1252 — hence my suggestion above.



Hi Tony,

yes I checked the full locale "lang mess German_Germany.10646" and I checked it
again, but sorry, no effect.
The system seems to understand "German_Germany.10646" (because when I enter 
nonsense
it says so), but when I afterwards query the language with "lang mess" it just
outputs "de" (see below).

maybe try the same for :lang ctype
I'm not sure


I also played around with different combinations of filetypes and syntax 
commands,
but no effect.
First enc, then mess: see my last mail. Other orders: see below.

Full transcript of my session follows.
There I use :later to produce an error message with German umlaut characters in 
it.


# initial state: latin1, working

:set enc?
   encoding=latin1
:lang mess
Momentane messages Sprache: "de_DE.CP1252"
:later
Bereits bei der jüngsten Änderung

# ok, let's begin.
# first "mess" then "enc":

:lang mess German_Germany.10646
:lang mess
Momentane messages Sprache: "de"
:set enc=utf-8
:later
Bereits bei der j<fc>ngsten<c4>nderung

# "syntax", then again "mess"

:syntax
Keine Syntax-Elemente f<fc>r diesen Puffer definiert
:syntax on

???

Just :syntax on by itself should not give an error (and neither should :set ft=dos BTW). See :help :syntax-on

When I do :syntax with no arguments in an empty buffer, I get

        No syntax items defined for this buffer

which is not an error. You could also do

        :filetype
        :let syntax_on

(both of them with no additional arguments) to see if syntax highlighting is currently on (the first command too because if filetype detection is off, Vim won't set 'syntax' on newly opened files)

E749: Leerer Puffer
:syntax
Keine Syntax-Elemente f<fc>r diesen Puffer definiert
:lang mess
Momentane messages Sprache: "de"
:lang mess German_Germany.10646
:lang mess
Momentane messages Sprache: "de"
:later
Bereits bei der j<fc>ngsten<c4>nderung

# set filetype, then again "mess"

Not :set filetype, just :filetype, as in one of the following:

        :filetype on
        :filetype plugin on
        :filetype plugin indent on
        :filetype indent on


:set filetype?
   filetype=
:set filetype=dos
E749: Leerer Puffer
:set filetype?
   filetype=dos
:later
Bereits bei der j<fc>ngsten<c4>nderung
:set enc=latin1
:later
Bereits bei der jüngsten Änderung
:set enc=utf-8
:later
Bereits bei der j<fc>ngsten<c4>nderung
:lang mess German_Germany.10646
:later
Bereits bei der j<fc>ngsten<c4>nderung
:set enc=utf-8
:later
Bereits bei der j<fc>ngsten<c4>nderung


Thank you,
   Paul




I see. Well, I can't help you then, unless you hit a bug which was fixed between your version (7.3.046) and the latest one (7.3.372).

You can get a recent (and regularly updated) version of Vim for Windows from http://sourceforge.net/projects/cream/files/Vim/ — this is what this list's regulars mean when they talk of "Vim without Cream". It is compiled from the official sources, but not by Bram himself, and possibly by means of a different C/C++ compiler; it ought to work just as well as Bram's executable on any Windows system (and maybe better since bugfixes are incorporated more often).


Best regards,
Tony.
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