Marty Fried wrote:
On Wed, Jan 4, 2012 at 12:17 PM, Joan Miquel Torres Rigo <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

    2012/1/4 Marty Fried <[email protected]
    <mailto:[email protected]>>:
    >>
    > I'm surprised to hear this - it seems to go against the
    philosophy that
    > someone with root permission should know what they are doing,
    and is working
    >  without protection on purpose.

    That's not exact:

    Root account should NEVER been used in production environments. You
    should use sudo instead.

I agree. That is why I believe that if someone is using root account for something, it is probably for maintenance, or to fix a problem. It may be that the person has root access for maintenance, but is not in the sudo users file, and doesn't have time to set it up for a one-time use.


    Apart of that, a welder also should know what he are doing while
    managing soldering iron. But leaving things disordered in its
    workspace is always a bad idea. Even when you know exactly what you
    are doing.

I think the welder is the normal user. It's more like root is a repair person, who is repairing the welder's equipment. A welder shouldn't take the equipment apart, normally, but a repair person may need to, and knows what they are doing. You don't want to disable the equipment in some way when he's working on it, as he may need it to be functioning normally to fix it.

Nice philosophy, but: I suspect that due to the free nature of the various linux distros, there are quite a few "root" users who only barely know what they're doing. Having a complex editor like Vim doing things (such as backups, changing permissions, changing ownership) isn't a good idea imho. Such things should be done explicitly (ie. chmod,chgrp, chown, or by menu); requiring all the barely to somewhat competent root administrators to have mastered all the nuances of vim is naive.
Admittedly, I didn't go over all 83 hits I got with helpgrep in detail.

Regards,
Chip Campbell

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