On Thursday, November 28, 2013 8:39:02 AM UTC-2, Ed Kostas wrote: > I am helping a lawyer office in (a difficult) trying Vi(m), and have a few > questions. The fact is that Vim seems to be very slow compared to Emacs. Let > me elaborate on that. > > 1 - Lawyers work with long (very long) texts and Latex sources. Basically, an > OCR program transforms every thing they are working with into text. Asterisks > are added automatically by the OCR, that is written in Lisp (or inLab > Scheme). The asterisks control the outline in something lawyers call > org-mode. They use tabs and shift tabs to close the outline, and have a fast > overview of the document. > > It seems that Vim outline did not work as well as Emacs Org-mode. The lawyers > complain that it takes forever to close or open the paragraphs. It does not > have schedules, calendars, deadlines, etc. Latex sources seems to be much > slower in Vim, and often freezes Vim. In fact, I noticed that Vim becomes so > slow that people types faster than Vim deals with the syntax coloring. First > question: How to make Vim faster? > > 2- Lawyers often make search by meaning. There are programs, in elisp, that > analize the text, and perform a fuzzy search. Second question: How to switch > from vimscript to Lisp? Any dialect if Lisp will do. People who wrote the > scripts said that they can convert everything to Racket, Common Lisp, etc. I > read somewhere that Vim accepts scripting in almost any language: Python, > Ruby, and Racket. > > 3- It seems that there is a Vi clone that does everything these lawyers want. > It is fast in dealing with large Latex sources, it has an org-mode that works > like emacs, etc. etc. It is called Evil. Third question: What am I loosing if > I work with Evil? > > Please, I am not a programmer expert. In fact, I know very little about > programming, and almost nothing about Vim and other Vi-clones. People says > that Vim is better than Emacs, and that everybody uses Vim, etc. Therefore my > friends decided to give Vim a chance. Audiatur et altera pars, lawyers say. > In the context, it means: If there is a claim that Vim is better than Emacs, > you should try Vim, before dismissing the claim. Therefore give examples, and > explain how to install everything that need to be installed in order to make > Vim faster.
To Marc Weber. Thank you for your prompt answer. I am very impressed with your knowledge of the problem. I thought nobody heard about org-mode, and you came with an alternative :-) 1- Speed. I followed your recomendation of turning the syntax off, and it worked in the sense that Vim became faster. :syn off However, the syntax colors disappeared. I am sure that you expected that. You probably wanted to check whether the problem was with the syntax highlighting. As for the version, people are using the 7.4 version, that one installs with mercurial. Thus: ~/edt# hg clone https://vim.googlecode.com/hg/ vim Then then they (the lawyers) compile it with: ./configure make sudo make install I read in the site that one should also type: hg pull hg update They have skipped this step. 2) I am glad to know that I can compile Vim with Racket. This solve the other problem too. I will start looking for documentation on how to do it. I would appreciate if somebody know how to do it, and could provide a command line to build vim with Racket. Is it as easy as building vim with Python? -- -- You received this message from the "vim_use" maillist. Do not top-post! Type your reply below the text you are replying to. For more information, visit http://www.vim.org/maillist.php --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "vim_use" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
