I meant "folks"...:)

On Mon, Apr 7, 2014 at 2:54 PM, ping song <[email protected]> wrote:

> forks:
> any conclusions/progress about the discussion?
>
> I just got a new PC and I'd like to try one of the plugin manager way to
> start my vim journey on it.
> previously I only did that manually in years.
>
>
>
> On Thu, Mar 27, 2014 at 11:43 AM, Nikolay Pavlov <[email protected]>wrote:
>
>>
>> On Mar 27, 2014 7:31 PM, "Marc Weber" <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >
>> > Excerpts from Nikolay Pavlov's message of Tue Mar 25 20:32:13 +0000
>> 2014:
>> > > With VAM you can ask to update specific plugin only. Action "update
>> all
>> > > plugins for which there is a newer version available" is exactly what
>> VAM
>> > > does if you disallow using VCS sources (otherwise it may switch source
>> > > types without notice (or with, I do not actually remember)) (updating
>> VCS
>> > > sources which were installed manually still works fine).
>> > To be honest I don't know either. We haven't defined behaviour.
>> > VAM should
>> > - run git pull if a plugin directory happens to be a git repository
>> > - hg update if its contains a .hg directory
>> > and so on.
>> >
>> > Thus if you turn a .git into a .hg repository :VamUpdate plugin-name
>> > should do what you want.
>>
>> I meant changing non-VCS to VCS, not between VCS. I know that VCS types
>> won't be switched.
>>
>> >
>> > But you're right that one final goal could be a to support fixed
>> > versions & update sources. The perfect "user experience" would be
>> > "choose yourself" which is why the last update I made was that
>> > important: It allows passing dictionaries instead of plugin names.
>> >
>> > Thus Activate(['plugin-name']) can be replaced by
>> > Activate([{'name': 'plugin-name', 'force-change-branch-on-update': 1
>> 'force-hash': 'xxx345'}])
>> >
>> > The force-* keys are not supported yet, but are trivial to add and
>> document.
>> > Thus user would have full control.
>> >
>> > I think its more important to collaborate on the declaration than on the
>> > implementation. And I even failed on a "InstallPlugin" proposal.
>> >
>> > Thus somebody has to step up and just "win the race" - which doesn't
>> > make sense now that neobundle exists unless waiting how that turns out
>> > to be ... (my view).
>> >
>> > Marc Weber
>> >
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