On Fri, 9 Oct 2015 17:53:05 +0300 Nikolay Pavlov <[email protected]> wrote:
> 2015-10-08 20:33 GMT+03:00 Gevisz <[email protected]>: > > On Thu, 8 Oct 2015 22:23:33 +1100 Erik Christiansen > > <[email protected]> wrote: > > > >> On 06.10.15 01:01, Filype Pereira wrote: > >> > So, I started reading a vim book and didn't get very far, when I stopped > >> > at this line: > >> > > >> > > If you can't touch type, then go learn it and then come back to learn > >> > > vim. > >> > >> What a load of bollocks! > >> > >> During three decades of earning a living developing software, I used > >> vi/vim for the last quarter century without ever learning to touch type. > >> OK, I use quite a few fingers, and it goes pretty fast, but I do need to > >> look at the keyboard most of the time. That doesn't manifest as a > >> practical problem, since the computers I've used have all been very good > >> at remembering what I've typed, so I have no need to view the screen at > >> more than infrequent intervals. > >> > >> One thing I've noticed is that where one values quality over quantity, > >> it is the amount of thought that goes into a composition which matters, > >> not how rapidly it was input, or whether the typist did it with his eyes > >> closed. > > > > Completely agree and would throw the book after the phrase right into the > > trash bin. > > > > Unfortunately, I cannot boast that I use vim for a three decade, but I do > > use it > > and I do type using computers for a quarter of century. > > > > When necessary, I type fast enough to do my job quickly but I never tried > > to learn > > a touch typing and I should admit that for me it is already too late to > > learn it. > > > > Nevertheless, I do use a "blind typing" in the sense that I do not look into > > the monitor when I type, only to the keyboard. I get used to this style yet > > about 25 years ago trying to save my eyes from the ray monitors of that > > days. > > > > Usually, I type a whole sentence without looking into the monitor. > > > > It does not mean that I do not know my keyboard layout. I do know it and > > can type > > in a complete darkness (but much more slowly, of course). > > > > My hands move over the keyboard almost automatically but I still need a > > little feedback > > from my eyes to not hit "i" instead of "o" for example. > > > > In this connection I have only one inconvenience connected with the facts > > that > > 1) I usually have to use 3 keyboard layouts at the same time switching > > between them with a hot key, > > 2) it is impossible to have a "direct hot key switch" to a certain keyboard > > layout in Linux world. > > > > Because of that I have to remember all the time not only in which vim mode > > I am but also in which > > keyboard layout I am and it is too much for me. As the result, I too often > > end up raising my eyes > > to the monitor and finding out that I have typed the whole sentence in > > incorrect keybord layout. :( > > > > In such times I very much miss the good old MS DOS keyrus driver that could > > have been configured > > to produce a pleasant "crimping" noise when typing in a cyrillic keyboard > > layout and nothing > > when typing in Latin keyboard layout, for example. > > > > But the "direct hot key switch" could also help a lot in this situation. > > Unfortunately, as far as I know, it is impossible in the Linux World. > > I would suggest to ask this on superuser.com. Thank you for your reply. I was long going to ask this question on gentoo-user mailing list. Probably, I should do it right now just to finally find the best solution for this problem. The superuser.com will be the second option. > AFAIK you cannot do this directly with X server configuration, Yes. That it why I concluded that it is impossible to do in GNU/Linux. > but there are a number of “external” keyboard switchers which may > have the needed capabilities. I had an extensive google search earlier and found nothing, though. But you have encouraged to ask this question on gentoo-user. > The other variant is a console app like setxkbmap or xkb-switch used > in conjunction with global shortcuts capabilities provided by your > DE/WM (if no, there still are apps which provide global shortcuts > using X server own capabilities). I currently interested in a solution that will work under xfce4. It definitely should have been done via xfce4 keyboard layout switch plugin but, unfortunately, it does not. :( > > P.S. By a "direct hot key switch" I mean the hot key that switches directly > > to a certain > > keyboard layout, not by circling through all the active ones. > > > > However, such a "direct hot key switch" is possible in Windows. -- -- You received this message from the "vim_use" maillist. Do not top-post! Type your reply below the text you are replying to. For more information, visit http://www.vim.org/maillist.php --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "vim_use" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
