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> Subject: Re: Syntax: Using \v (very magic) in patterns in syntax files
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>> ------ Original Message ------
>> From: b...@melroch.se
>> To: b...@melroch.se Cc: vim_use@googlegroups.com
>> Sent: Saturday, November 23rd 2024, 13:25
>> Subject: Syntax: Using \v (very magic) in patterns in syntax files
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>> I have noticed that patterns in published syntax files never use the `\v`
>> (very magic) modifier. Is there any deeper reason than people's preferences
>> for this? Being used to Perl patterns I practically always use it and find
>> it hard to keep track of when to use backslashes when not using it. The
>> result is that more or less subtle errors creep in when I'm writing a
>> syntax file, so I'd prefer to use it unless it's a Really Bad Idea.
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>> I deeply sympathise with you. It seems complete madness that the slashing
>> is different for various quantifiers. (* recognised as a meta character,
>> but not +  or ?). My reading of the help suggests that very magic doesn't
>> cure this.
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> It does in that all ASCII punctuation characters can be escaped to be
> "normal" and those that are metacharacters are meta when not escaped. Word
> characters, quite sensibly do still need a backslash to be meta. That's
> consistent enough for me.
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> You seem to be talking about the perl behaviour, which seems consistent to
> me. My whinge was about the vim behaviour. Heree's a help snippet:
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> That's magic. Very magic and very nomagic are distinct from magic and
nomagic. They are each other's opposite and both are consistent but there
are currently no options for them: you have to use the `\v` and `\V`
modifiers in the pattern (or `\m` and `\M` but why? :-) You can even use
them to change behavior in the middle of a pattern!

>From the help:

*/\v* */\V*
Use of "\v" means that after it, all ASCII characters except '0'-'9',
'a'-'z',
'A'-'Z' and '_' have special meaning: "very magic"

Use of "\V" means that after it, only a backslash and the terminating
character (usually / or ?) have special meaning: "very nomagic"

Examples:
after:   \v    \m     \M      \V matches ~
'magic' 'nomagic'
  a    a     a      a literal 'a'
  \a    \a     \a      \a any alphabetic character
  .    .     \.      \. any character
  \.    \.     .      . literal dot
  $    $     $      \$ end-of-line
  *    *     \*      \* any number of the previous atom
  ~    ~     \~      \~ latest substitute string
  ()    \(\)     \(\)     \(\) group as an atom
  |    \|     \|      \| nothing: separates alternatives
  \\    \\     \\      \\ literal backslash
  \{    {     {      { literal curly brace



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> 4. Overview of pattern items                            pattern-overview
>                                                E865 E866 E867 E869
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> Overview of multi items.                                /multi E61 E62
> More explanation and examples below, follow the links.          E64 E871
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>          multi
>     'magic' 'nomagic'  matches of the preceding atom
> /star   *       \*      0 or more       as many as possible
> /\+     \+      \+      1 or more       as many as possible
> /\=     \=      \=      0 or 1          as many as possible
> /\?     \?      \?      0 or 1          as many as possible
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