Hi Karry!

Karryanna <[email protected]> wrote:
> • First of all, hinting sometimes doesn't work for me.
> The only case I can report is search field at PHP website,
> http://www.php.net
> If I hit `f`, I get a number for that field, however following it doesn't
> result in anything (visible).
> No matter what I think about PHP and no matter in this particular case
> I could use accesskey, I consider this a bug.

I can reproduce it, this is a bug. The hinting script does not know how to
handle the <input type="search"/>. There are a lot of input types allowed
through [html5][]. At the moment the input mode is started for input type
'text', 'password', 'checkbox' and 'radio' (by the way, makes it no sense to
switch to input mode if a radion button is hinted).

> The other case I've noted down is webpage through which I sometimes submit
> my homeworks, where hint for file selection shows but following it doesn't
> really bring up the selection dialog. However, this site is login protected.
> Anyway, I'd like to note that if I select next form field, tab back and
> press enter, everything works as expected.
> 
> Is there any explanation to this, and more importantly, some kind of a fix?

That's hard to say without seeing the html code of the page.

> • Another issue, downloaded files are sometimes saved under name `url`.
> I suspect this happens with any Google search, and this surely happened
> to me at some other websites.
> Unfortunately, I haven't noted down any of those other sites and Google
> attempts of personalised searches could make reproducing difficult, but
> googling "kartografie" lists link to
> http://www.google.com/url?q=http://gis.zcu.cz/studium/tka/Slides/uvod_do_kartografie.pdf
> for me but following the link gets the file saved as `url`.

This is a redirect page, and it seems that webkit uses only the part until the
question mark to determine the download file name. Sound's like a webkit
misbehaviour.

> • To stay with downloading, how does renaming of downloaded files work?
> I noticed that tar files get numbered. I mean, if `archive.tar` exists,
> another file of that name gets saved as `archive.tar.1`, another as
> `archive.tar.2` and so on. However, if for example `photo.jpg` exists,
> and I try to download another file of that name, the old one is moved
> to `photo.jpg~` and the new one gets saved under its name. Downloading
> any other `photo.jpg` would get the very first file lost definitely.
> Especially in combination with saving files as `url`, that's not nice.
> So, what's the policy? And is it in any way configurable?

Sound's strange, never noticed this behaviour. There isn't any logic for in
vimprobable itself, so this must be a webkit feature.

> • Searching terms with diacritics sometimes breaks the diacritics
> Sometimes I try to search for a term including diacritics but when
> I get results, it seems that the diacritics had been broken somewhere.
> It should be reproducable for example here:
> https://is.cuni.cz/studium/eng/kdojekdo/index.php?KEY=Az1
> Say you wish to search for person whose family name is "Burešová".
> After searching, I see "Burešová" in the field.
> Another example is my highschool's site, http://www.gym-cl.cz
> There's search field in the upper right corner, I used it for example
> to search for "suplování" but after the search, it again seems to be
> broken.
> However, on many sites searching with diacritis works all right.
> 
> Do you have any ideas about what this could be caused by?

In general such issues are caused by different character encondings used for
the page and the server side application.

> • Is it possible to use different encoding to display page/file?
> I got to think about that after trying to view
> http://www.karryanna.cz/misc/dopis_nejen_jeziskovi.draft
> using some browsers. As for this file, it turned out to be a little bit
> more sophisticated problem, but anyway, could I force Vimprobable to
> display a file using some specific encoding, say using UTF-8?

Yes, :set defaultencoding=utf-8 and reloading of the page should do the trick.

> • Is it possible to see link's location before following it?
> I sometimes wish to know where a link leads before I really follow it.
> I can get to know it by hovering over the link with my mouse but I wish
> to do it using keyboard.
> I currently use `;y` to achieve this but it's not exactly the same.
> Is there something else?

This feature does not exist. And there is no workaround for this.

> • Is there any kind of private mode?
> The thing I care about is history saving. I sometimes browse websites
> whose addresses I don't like to show up in tab completion during, say,
> practical session at university.
> I could rename the history file and after I am done, rename it back
> but I don't think this would be a nice solution. However, it surely is
> one I can live with.

There is no private mode available at the time.

> • Is it possible to download current page/file?
> Say I would have
> http://www.karryanna.cz/misc/dopis_nejen_jeziskovi.draft
> mentioned above opened in Vimprobable. Can I get it to save that file?
> Like, without going to parent directory and using `;s` (or making
> direct link from special page).

The was an path in the past that provided a :write or :save command to save
the current opened document. But this was never merged into vimprobable, don't
know why. A workaround could be the :print command that opens the print dialog
where you can print the page into pdf or ps, but this isn't the same I know.

> • Is there any kind of hinting for frames?
> I know that frames are evil and stuff but anyway, for example
> http://srazy.hocz.org/index2.html
> is a page informing about meetings of a community I belonged in and it's
> made using frames. Is there a way to select the right frame so that for
> example j/k movement takes effect? (It's not needed at real index but it
> would come in handy after selecting some menu entry.)

This hinting does not exist, an we hope frame will fade away from the www. To
implement the hinting wouldn't be too difficult, but the scrolling is done in
vimprobable on a scrollable window containing the webview. I don't have any
idea if there's a way to scroll within a defined frame without using
JavaScript (like dwb does).

> • Sometimes I can't leave insert mode
> I am not sure whether I should report this since I can't reproduce it.
> However, sometimes I get stuck in insert mode, it seems that pressing
> escape leads to leaving it and activating it again immediately. The only
> way to leave the mode is to tab outside of the form and use escape there.
> 
> Has anyone else encountered this?

Normally you should be able to avoid this by setting escapeinput=true.

> Well, that's finally all for now.
> I'll be greatful for any suggestions and help (as well as for patience
> with me).

Puh, that was a really long mail and it costs me a lot of time and attention.
I think for the next time it's better to split the mail into single issue.
These would be easier to answer and to keep track of unanswered issue and
questions.

Daniel

[html5]: http://sixrevisions.com/html5/new-html5-form-input-types/


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