Thanks for your reply!

The dead PRAM battery would make sense then...one or maybe both that did
fire up needed a power cycle or so before they would come up - sounds like
maybe that PRAM battery gets some charge from the computer?  I will have to
look into replacement...

The working hard drive is an IBM 40Mb.  The other two are both Quantum 80Mb
drives.  My Windows PC will recognize and read data (via the TransMAC
program) off of the 40Mb.  Both Quantums are dead - the SCSI card in my PC
won't even recognize that they are plugged in.  Kinda weird as they both
spin up and make noise like they are alive...usually even dead or dying
drives are at least ID'ed by the system at boot time...  Oh well!  The IBM
seems to be working fine, but it is a bit noisy (spindle noise)...I guess
I'm just worried that the other two are dead and it might not be far
behind...

I do not have any bootable Mac disks.  I do have blank floppies I can dig
out and try to use.  I found one on my desk...when I put it in it asked if I
wanted to format it.  I said yes, it worked a minute, then spit it out and
said format failed.  I'll have to try again with another disk...seems like
half the floppies I try to use lately (in the PC world) only about half want
to work...which is amazing as the old 5.25's that are years older seem to
continue working just fine!

>From some more reading, I'm gathering that to make a bootable disk, perhaps
all you have to do is format it and copy the "system" folder to it?  And
then after using the "disk tools" boot disk (which I don't have), I can
initialize another hard drive, then boot off the floppy and copy the
"system" folder back to it and it becomes bootable?  At which point, you
copy the System 7.5.3 files over and do the proper install?

I'll have to dig out the newer Mac...hopefully it will still work too!
Pretty sure it's SCSI...and also pretty sure it has Ethernet.  I also seem
to recall messing around with it years ago and somehow managing to browse a
Windows PC to copy files around...

Thanks,

Wesley


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I have not personally ever seen/used an LC, but from what I've seen time and
time again on this website, dead PRAM batteries are often the reason these
computers dont chime, have a black screen, etc. Thats why the drive worked
in one machine but not the other. I wouldnt worry about the drive that works
(for now) unless it makes funny sounds. The other disks could possiby be
broken, corrupted, etc.

Also, could you please give more details on the "newer" Mac you have.
Like, what model is it, what OS version, does it have SCSI, etc. I assume
you can get files from your PC to your "newer" mac?

Do you have any floppies you could maybe boot up the LC with? And can you
connect the drives that show the flahing question mark  to your Windows PC?

Lastly, I would open up the case of the LC IIs and clean out the dust with
compressed air, as well as make sure all hard drive cables are snuggly
connected.

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