do those cross reference to something radio shack might sell ?  :-)

Thanks for looking at that!

Charles



On May 3, 2013, at 9:58 PM, Blair Aakre wrote:

> Q1 and Q2 are part of the oscillator circuit. They are both identical 2N4258 
> PNP transistors according to my CPU board schematic.
> 
> -Blair
> 
> 
> 
> On May 3, 2013, at 5:09 PM, Hardware Mack wrote:
> 
>> thank you for that great information!
>> 
>> Can anyone look at their lisa cpu board and let me know what you have in 
>> that spot?
>> 
>> Thank You!
>> Charles
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On May 3, 2013, at 6:01 PM, Doug McNutt wrote:
>> 
>>> At 12:56 -0700 5/3/13, Notgoing Totellyou wrote:
>>>> I have the CPU card here and its missing a transistor.
>>>> 
>>>> i can't find a replacement anywhere.
>>>> 
>>>> Anyone have any lisa parts laying around?
>>>> 
>>>> it reads : AMPS 4258 EBC
>>>> 
>>>> you can see the spot behind it, it's missing .
>>>> 
>>> \
>>> Transistor Data Book edition 48, 1980
>>> 
>>> MPS4258   CRI, SPS, MOTO  p 153 line 15  which says:
>>> 
>>> Silicon PNP low power
>>> 350 mw collector dissipation
>>> V cbo 12 V
>>> Collector max  800 mA
>>> Hfe (gain)  15
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I would recommend a very common 2N2907 as a replacement.
>>> 
>>> From the picture it's not altogether clear that transistors Q1 and Q2 are 
>>> supposed to be the same type.. A pretty common circuit uses PNP and NPN 
>>> pairs close together.  The pair to the 2N2907 is NPN type 2N2222, also very 
>>> common. (I have a bunch of both here. Use dmcnutt at above off list with 
>>> Lisa somewhere in the subject.)
>>> 
>>> A look at a working Lisa would be worth while. Anybody here ??
>>> 
>>> I also have no idea what the A in front of the very common Motorola MPS 
>>> means.
>>> 
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