Cool. It's been a long time but as I remember the 700 mainboard was developed in a IIci. They changed the case a little to make it seem less like a IIci and more like a new model, which it was, in terms of the motherboard, anyway. I haven't tried it but the main boards are probably interchangeable.... the supply was probably upgraded too.
There used to be a guy inside Apple who would upgrade a IIci and various other machines... if you knew enough to find him! They had plenty of extra boards lying around at times so IIcis became quadras as I recall and earlier on Macintosh II models became IIfx machines. Thomas On Wed, Jul 15, 2020 at 8:57 PM Wesley Furr <wes...@megley.com> wrote: > I had (well, sorta still have) a IIci and a IIcx I picked up some years > back at a thrift store cheap. Unfortunately that was before I learned of > the dangers of leaking batteries...you can probably guess where this is > leading...not much left of them. More recently I got a IIcx motherboard > from someone and re-capped it, but still couldn't get it to work...gave up > on it for the time being. Might have to take another stab at it some > day...but not sure what else to try. As I recall, the only real difference > in the II's and 700 is that the II's are set up to be in desktop > orientation and the 700 as a tower? All personal preference... :-) > > I have re-capped a couple of old Macs, mainly LC and LCII's so far. I > found that the MLCC (multilayer ceramic) capacitors work very well. Nice > and small (but not too small) with plenty of pad on the board to make them > very easy to solder on. Also no polarity to worry about. Sounds like they > may be more reliable than even the tantalum capacitors. I know what you > mean, shipping is the worst part! The last ones I got I picked some up > from ebay...US sellers selling some off of a reel or whatever...prices and > shipping both better than from Mouser/Digikey/etc. > > Wesley > > > ------------------------------ > *From:* vintage-macs@googlegroups.com [mailto: > vintage-macs@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Thomas Pfaff > *Sent:* Wednesday, July 15, 2020 8:01 PM > *To:* vintage-macs@googlegroups.com > *Subject:* Re: Apple Mac Quadra 700 > > Hi. Yep am planning on moving to tantalum in my IIci. > I understood your reply completely... so thank you! > > When I worked at Ample Computerz I bought a Quadra 900 among other > machines... they were cheap for employeez. > Turned out they were cheap all around- the case was always falling apart > and meh... so I had planned on getting a Quadra 700 myself. > I quit working there out of disgust.... gravitated to NeXT work afterward > coz both their hardware+OS software was so much better. Not to mention > NeXT programmers did less work and were paid a lot more than their Mac > counterparts, by and large, due to the scarcity of Objective-C developers. > > Anyway, I found a IIci for next to nothing recently, then remembered the > first Mac I did engineering work on was a IIci (at Everex) and kinda fell > in love with it. > I like the case better than the Quadra 700... even tho' they are nearly > identical. > It's like the Star Trek where Spock says to the two identical chick > robots, "I love you... but I hate you!" > Or something like that. Hmm. I don't hate the 700 tho'. :-) I do > prefer the IIfx and the IIci models right now. > > I have a tentative order in at Mouser for tantalum caps but want to line > up a few more projects coz of the shipping costs! > Hope I can get that machine working by January. > > Incidentally, does anyone have a installed image of A/UX 3.0? A/UX 2.0? > I was stupid enough to sell my copy of both, which I got when I was at > Ample. > That's what I really want to run again on my Mac II series models. A/UX > 3.x runs zippity quick on the Quadras but just think the earlier models are > cuter. > > Thomas > > On Wed, Jul 15, 2020 at 12:35 PM <wes...@megley.com> wrote: > >> I have a Q700 I picked up at a recycling center and tried a while back >> to get working, but didn't have any luck, but also didn't spend much >> time on it, could be a bad power supply. At any rate, my recollection >> is that on the one I had at least, the capacitors on the motherboard >> were all the yellow tantalum capacitors, not the silver can >> electrolytic type that fail and leak in the well-known fashion. >> Tantalum capacitors can fail too, I have seen it happen on at least >> two older PC's (I assume it could happen on Macs too)...and they >> either fail silently and likely short out, or they can explode (blow >> the top off) in an impressive pop...I have observed one of each, and >> when they blow, they get your attention. :-) But to your original >> question, if it is like mine, and I'm guessing it would be, they are >> the more reliable tantalum capacitors that should not need replacement. >> >> Wesley >> >> >> Quoting Thomas Pfaff <tpfaff...@gmail.com>: >> >> > Curious... do you know if the capacitors on the Quadra 700 mamaboard do >> > better than the ones in the IIci and such? Capacitors from the >> pre-china >> > days tend to have very long lifespans but Apple got an early start on >> > shipping "lesser componentry" on their boards. >> > >> > Thomas >> >> >> -- >> -- >> ----- >> You received this message because you are a member of the Vintage Macs >> group. >> The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml and our >> netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml >> To post to this group, send email to vintage-macs@googlegroups.com >> To leave this group, send email to >> vintage-macs+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/vintage-macs >> >> Support for older Macs: http://lowendmac.com/services/ >> --- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Vintage Macs" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to vintage-macs+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To view this discussion on the web visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/vintage-macs/20200715153103.Horde.1XQSrezQzsMWYWE7xVHaz3l%40www.megley.com >> . >> > -- > -- > ----- > You received this message because you are a member of the Vintage Macs > group. > The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml and our > netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml > To post to this group, send email to vintage-macs@googlegroups.com > To leave this group, send email to > vintage-macs+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/vintage-macs > > Support for older Macs: http://lowendmac.com/services/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Vintage Macs" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to vintage-macs+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/vintage-macs/CADqfMZJKS_gQxisXAir%2B6-9%2B_vz--UXLpnGvn%2BoUfRiiSNAa%3DA%40mail.gmail.com > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/vintage-macs/CADqfMZJKS_gQxisXAir%2B6-9%2B_vz--UXLpnGvn%2BoUfRiiSNAa%3DA%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> > . > > -- > -- > ----- > You received this message because you are a member of the Vintage Macs > group. > The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml and our > netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml > To post to this group, send email to vintage-macs@googlegroups.com > To leave this group, send email to > vintage-macs+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/vintage-macs > > Support for older Macs: http://lowendmac.com/services/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Vintage Macs" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to vintage-macs+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/vintage-macs/F3FDC4A476674F8CAAEC36C1A409158F%40wesley7 > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/vintage-macs/F3FDC4A476674F8CAAEC36C1A409158F%40wesley7?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> > . > -- -- ----- You received this message because you are a member of the Vintage Macs group. 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