Mark Benson wrote:

>On Monday, Nov 25, 2002, at 22:01 Europe/London, Darren wrote:
>
>Darren - something tells me you might have an Amiga, for those who 
>don't know/remember them or are just curious check out 
><http://www.amiga-hardware.com>. Again, no affiliation, just a cool 
>mindfield of information on Amigas.
>  
>
A few, I've more macs though.
Amiga 1200's are a very popular model, my A1200 has been modified to fit 
a pc box and sports a 030/50/64 blizzardIV board, scsi card (1 drive 
dedicated to MacOS) and fpu, makes me cry when mac folk pullout fpu's 
from their macs ethernet cards, kinda hard to find here. It will run 
OS7.6.1 and 8.1 with VM, something else an Amiga doesn't possess or need 
if you have more than 16mb of ram. Programs are usually very memory 
efficient on the Amiga.
Fusion3.1 for AmigaOS can easily be run at startup so you bootup as a 
macintosh, speed is very good and the emulation works very well for most 
aspects of the macOS. Amiga's biggest downfall is the serial port being 
tied to the video, you wont run a tcp stack at any speed running with 
the very nice multiscan mac desktop. AmigaOS runs in ntsc or pal modes 
by default and suffers terribly if the screen mode is switched to a more 
appealing multiscan mode and trying to run a tpc stack, solution video 
card. The amiga can also utilize the video memory for system memory if 
needed apart from freeing the serial port, another solution is a pcimica 
enet card which may do the same thing. Yet another solution is running 
Shapeshifter which will run in monochrome for example, or a number of 
other modes using the native display, this can cause problems for some 
mac software and the emulation is not fast. BasiliskII may be better, 
I'd purchased Fusion by then so never tried it extensivly

If upgrading a standard A1200 do try for a 040, the 030 is fast but 
there's alot more a 040 is capable of under the AmigaOS and its well 
worth the extra $ if you plan to work with an Amiga. A 060 might be 
worth a look if your real keen, extra memory slot are generally provided 
on the upgrade card. Amiga bits generally run at 25-50% more expensive 
than mac parts, all from third party suppliers and prices will very 
greatly depending on location.

The best aspect of the AmigaOS is the depth of support, everything from 
sw to hw for a OS that should be dead, an email to various people in 
respect to email clients, lowend browsers and hardware mods may prove 
useful to some of the more talented people with regard to mac's.

Through programs like Fusion 3.1 and Shapeshifter, Basilisk (same 
author) many people have migrated from Amiga to the MacOS as the pc 
dislike is universal and the Mac desktop and file structure is sort of 
familiar. The fact Mark mentions the name Gateway proves what a tail of 
woe the Amiga users have faced over the years.

. The Amigaone looks promising, rather firmilar of a old powermac maxed 
out with this seasons upgrade cards, still this 
http://www.anythingamiga.com/item650.htm , available locally does fit my 
idea of what a entry level g4powermac could be without the see through 
side with light nonsense. Prices are in australian $ converter 
available. I wonder if MOL would run on this configuration? Suppose it 
would through the Linuxppc side and a fair chance to do X. Probably do a 
better emulation of PC also. Win 95 emulation will run on a 040 under 
AmigaOS

Thank you for the links and the slightly OT banter, I have tried to keep 
as on topic as possible

Happily offer any help to folk trying to emulate mac on amiga for what 
little that's worth. Min of 8mb fast ram and 020 required. The Mac-n-dos 
list doesn't support AmigaDos leaving this forum as the next best.


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