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From: "Clark Martin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Vintage Macs" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, April 06, 2004 10:08 AM
Subject: Re: startup problems on IIsi


> At 11:03 PM -0700 4/5/04, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >Hey folks..
> >
> >Just wondering about a problem I've been having on my Mac IIsi.
> >
> >When I power up, I usually have to try 10 to 15 times before I actually
> >get the newly-acquired Mac IIsi to boot.  The first 10-14 times my Mac
> >will do one of a few things:
> >
> >a) give me a sad Mac with the error code "000000F 0000001" or "000000F
> >0000002", forcing me to restart
> >b) simply hang on the "Happy Mac" forcing me to restart
> >c) hang on the "Welcome to Macintosh." screen, forcing me to restart
> >  and finally, just today, I got a new one:
> >d) a Bomb screen (before showing a happy Mac) saying there was a "bus
> >error"
>
>
> Is there a ROM SIMM (probably not).  If so, pull it and clean it (see
below).
>

I don't think there is a ROM SIMM installed on this motherboard, but I'll
have to check to be sure.

> >
> >After I get it to finally boot successfully, it runs fine with no
problems
> >whatsoever.  I have had it up and running for days with no trouble.
It's
> >almost like it needs to be 'warmed up' like an old car or something
before
> >it can run well.
> >
> >I have reseated the RAM and changed the battery to no effect.  I also
have
> >one of those PDS to NuBus converter cards installed, but no expansion
card
> >installed on top of it.
>
> Try pulling the PDS to NuBus converter and leave it out.
>

I was thinking about doing that.  Is it common for these things to cause
problems if there is no expansion card hooked up to them?  Or would that
only happen if the converter is defective?

I will have to check and see if there is an FPU on it.

> Try removing the RAM and lightly running a clean ink eraser over the
> contacts (both sides).  30 pin SIMMs seem particularly susceptible to
> oxidation.
>

I will do that, but the SIMMs look brand new.  Obviously they are not, but
the contacts are shiny as shiny can be.

> Although it's not likely the problem, check the voltage on the "new"
> battery, it may be not that new.  It should be around 3.6V.  Usually
> they will work down to 3V.

Well, the battery that was in there previously was completely dead and the
computer still worked.  I'm sure the one I replaced it with is not very
new (I just pulled it off the spare IIsi board), but it seems to hold
enough charge to keep time and settings while the machine is off.  The
battery probably isn't the problem, but maybe a brand new one *would* do
some good...

> >
> >I have a spare IIsi motherboard, but I am wary to swap them as this
> >problem doesn't really hinder my usage of the IIsi in any way other
than
> >forcing me to set aside 10 minutes of my time 'warming it up'.
> >
> >I'm just curious as to what would cause symptoms such as this.  Anyone?


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