It is messages like the two below that bring me up short. I've been computing 
since Commodore 64, but what these two gentlemen are discussing makes me 
realize that I know nothing about the 9 vintage and legacy Macs which I have. I 
just might donate all my Macs to a thrift store, get me an eMac and just send 
email. Too old to learn.

Bailey
In a message dated 3/7/05 4:09:53 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

<< At 15:30 -0500 03/07/2005, Vintage Macs wrote:
>Date: Mon, 7 Mar 2005 14:00:00 -0600
>From: Jeff Grant <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

>I've been tinkering with a batch of Supermac Thunderstorms with At&t
>16A dsps on them in photoshop 3.0.  (IIci and quadra 950)  This may be
>a stupid question, but are there any known resources about these
>chips, if I were to try and write a plugin to accelerate jpeg draws in
>web browsers instead of just photoshop.  The easy answer of course
>would be to find cpu accelerators . . .  I've searched the net for
>ideas with no luck.  I guess these chips are pretty old.  '92 I think.
>  Thanks,

There should be a more complete part number than 16A on the DSP 
chips.  With the part number you may be able to find a datasheet for 
the DSP chip.   However, that still won't tell you how the chip is 
accessed through the NuBus interface.   For that, you'd need to track 
down some old SuperMac or Radius (Radius bought SuperMac) engineers 
most likely, or do some pretty good sleuthing.

Postings to the comp.sys.mac.programming.* hierarchy of news groups 
might turn up some knowledgable folks.  Searching dejanews in the 
same groups might also be helpful.

Also, if you download the Hardware Developer Notes for the Q660AV and 
Q840AV from Apple there are extensive sections on the programming 
interface for the DSP in those machines.  That may or may not give 
you some lateral insight into the video card DSPs.

Having the datasheet for the chips might tell you something about 
what choices the original designers had for hooking the chips up to 
the host's bus though.

If you can't find the datasheet elsewhere on the web, it is probably 
available here:  <http://www.freetradezone.com> but they'll charge 
you $10 to download it.

The Radius Thunder IV GX series had a similar arrangement with a 
daughter board called the Photoengine.  It bears four AT&T DSPs and 
may be a descendant of the SuperMac hardware.

Please report back if you find anything interesting.  This is an 
interesting line of inquiry.  It would be very cool if you could 
accelerate web browsing on these old machines using a DSP bearing 
video card.

Jeff Walther >>


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