Approximately when did IBM start making PPC processors? I thought the
first PPCs were Motorola...

On 6/23/05, Mark Benson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> On 22 Jun 2005, at 04:06, Dylan McDermond wrote:
> 
> > The best bet is the future Pentium M derivatives
> 
> Current rumoring suggests Pentium M for mobile and small form factor
> machines (read Mac mini, Powerbook, iBook) and Pentium D Dual Core
> CPUs where the G5 is currently (iMac and PowerMac). If they can tune
> OS X and their Pro Apps to get the most out of the Pentium D it'll be
> a good computer. The reason the higher-end machines will not be out
> next year is because the Pentium D has only just been unveiled and
> Apple and Intel still need time to co-develop the new architecture to
> hone it to the sorts of levels that the PowerMac G5 is at. Anyone who
> thinks Apple will mod stock PC boards to work as Macs doesn't know
> Apple. They will want boards done to their own spec. They quite
> possibly will use some other Intel components, the laptops for
> example will likely have built-in Centrino mobile technology for
> wireless rather than AE (that means Apple laptops will finally have
> WiFi built-in as standard, as current Intel based PC laptops tend
> to). They may also use part or all of the Intel motherboard chipset.
> The boards however will be custom layouts. One thing I also think
> Apple may well do is either solder down the CPUs, or alternatively
> use a non-PC standard socket pattern for the CPU. That said however
> they have, for all their protestations, not been totally adverse to
> CPU upgrades in the past. You never know we may in the future be able
> to upgrade the CPUs on our Macs with off-the-shelf stock from an PC
> vendor. How cool is that!
> 
> Dell already have a Pentium D PC out but *that* operating system
> isn't in the slightest optimised for EM64T *OR* Dual Core so it's
> pretty much a waste of money in the Windows world, at least for now.
> 
> Re: the reference that was originally quoted, that reference refers
> completely to Intel's Itanium IA64 architecture, which is a dead
> duck. Intel have developed EM64T which is easy to support alongside
> AMD's AMD64 line, and so I believe the IA64 line will be phased out
> within 18 months in favour of a line of high-end EM64T chips, maybe
> with inbuilt IA64 legacy translation. Either way Apple are not using
> IA64. I am not even totally sure IA64 is x86 compatible.
> 
> Also I'd like to point out to those that were muttering about Intel
> making PowerPC CPUs that IBM own all the patents to PowerPC and POWER
> technology. Apple can't just walk up to Intel and ask to make PPCs -
> the designs are not Apple's to hand out. It simply would not be
> possible. IBM and Intel might co-operate (begrudgingly) in the low-
> end Server market but they are both producing chips and thus are
> rivals in CPU terms. It'd be like Apple giving Microsoft the keys to
> OS X... Either way that rumor is dead as the line is confirmed to be
> x86.
> 
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