Date: Tue, 9 Aug 2005 02:28:07 -0700 (PDT)
From: Gregg Eshelman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Marathon?
In-Reply-To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

What sort of Macintosh can run the game Marathon?
What sort of Macintosh does it run really well on?

Heh, heh. I have a group of friends who gather, network their Macs and play Marathon every holiday season when their in town. We've been doing this for over ten years. We started with multi-player Spaceward Ho!.

Marathon is "supported" all the way back to the 68020, but I've played it on a IIci and it's painfully slow. Even with a Turbo601 acceleratior (PPC601/66 or 100) it's painfully slow. The graphics demands quickly saturate the graphics capabilities even with a "fast" NuBus card such as the Radius Thunder IV GX.

In other words, the CPU isn't the bottleneck, the graphics system is the bottleneck.

The game is okay on a Quadra 605. Better on a Q63x family machine because there's special support in Marathon for the Valkyrie graphics chip in those machines.

It's surprising slow on the NuBus PowerMacs when played through the built-in DRAM graphics port or a NuBus card. If you use an X100 machine for Marathon, play it on a PDS based VRAM card (not the AV card). It's quite nice on an X100 machine through the PDS VRAM card.

Anything with PCI will play it more than fast enough.

LocalTalk networking is a bit slow for multi-player. Ethernet is really needed.

So I'd say that the minimum for acceptable play is a 68040 based machine and even then, the Q605 family (LC 475/6, P475/6) may be a bit slow. NuBus graphics cards may be too slow. If play is going to be acceptable, it will be on the built-in graphics. If it's too slow on the buitl-in then it will probably be slower on a NuBus card.

The game is not a 3-D game.  It came before 3-D APIs.

Now its predecessor, "Pathways into Darkness", that will run nicely on a IIci. It's not a multi-player game, but it's a good one. There are some fun puzzles in PID. But it doesn't have the frenetic pace many folks prefer in 1st person shooters.

Jeff Walther

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