"The PRAM battery is irrelevant to powering up on these models."

Sooo, even if I change my battery, my IIci will not work. Right?
It made sense that, if I didn't have any power to establish any ADB
connection, that the IIci wouldn't power up using the keyboard. If the
battery doesn't supply power, then what is it? The PSU?

Greets,

Manuel Jorge M. Marques
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From: Vintage Macs [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
Jeff Walther
Sent: segunda-feira, 12 de Setembro de 2005 0:44
To: Vintage Macs
Subject: Re: Strange IIci behavior, cont.

>Date: Sat, 10 Sep 2005 20:01:11 -0500
>From: Jeff Grant <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

>The IIci has the Astec power supply, and I think you're right, it may
>be getting quirky.  I have a bit of other odd behavior though.  I was
>under the impression, (but could be totally wrong) that the Quadra 700
>power supply would work in the IIci being the same form factor with
>same listed voltages.  When I try my Quadra power supply in the IIci,
>the light flickers again, but won't power up.  This happens if the PDS
>card is in or removed.  Nada happens.  When I put the PSU back into
>the Quadra, the 700 boots up just fine.  It happens to be the GE model
>from the 700.  When I put the IIci's original Astec back in, it boots
>up fine if no PDS card is in, as I described before.  So maybe it is
>the mobo??  Maybe both . . . hmmm.  Oh yeah, I live in Fredericksburg,
>Va.

There is a fairly common failure of the IIci motherboard which 
interferes with powering up.  Many of the surface mount capacitors 
are in the vicinity of the power-on circuitry on the motherboard and 
when they leak corrosive, that's the circuitry most likely to be 
damaged.

You may wish to pull your motherboard and examine the rear right 
quadrant for discoloration--slightly darker, hint of brown.

My IIci had this failure.  I ended up bypassing a motherboard trace 
with some wire, because one of the vias through which the trace 
passed was corroded completely.   I also cleaned the motherboard and 
replaced the caps.

You might try your IIci PS in the Q700 to see what you can see.

The two power supplies should be interchangeable.  However, the 
current required to power up might be different and that could be why 
one power supply come on and the other doesn't.  If the MB is 
delivering below spec. one PS may have more head room than the other.

Other compatible power supplies include IIcx, IIci, IIvi, IIvx, Q700, 
C650, Q650, 7100.

The PRAM battery is irrelevant to powering up on these models.

Jeff Walther

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