Not a VW, but I've started lots of alternator-equipped vehicles by 'bump starting'. If there's enough battery to spark, it'll start.
glenh :<) GARRETT FELL wrote: > I am not sure....it was kind of a question. > > I think it's possible to start a generator equipped car without a battery > (bump-start) but there's no way you could start an alternator equipped car > without a battery.... > > -Garrett > > ----- Original Message ---- > From: "Camarena, Enrique" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: Air-Cooled Volkswagen Discussion List <[email protected]> > Sent: Friday, March 2, 2007 1:03:50 PM > Subject: Re: [vintagvw] Alternator / Generator conversion in an early car > > > So a car with an alternator cannot be bumped started? I don't have an > alternator but I never thought of that as a con for the alternator. > > -----Original Message----- > From: GARRETT FELL [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Friday, March 02, 2007 10:57 AM > To: Air-Cooled Volkswagen Discussion List > Subject: Re: [vintagvw] Alternator / Generator conversion in an early car > > > That's another one of the generator's redeeming qualities, right? The > bump-start with a mostly dead battery? > > Getting back to the subject of generators -vs- alternators. Is everything > the same between a generator and alternator installation except for the > "stand" it sits on? I guess that'd just be the backing plates that would be > left? Are the stands different shaped? I've seen references to > "generator/alternator" stands which suggests they are the same, but then > again I've seen references to one or the other.... > > Still haven't competely decided what to do here. I'd like to try to keep the > engine compartment as "clean" as possible, so mounting the regulator in a > visible place makes me frown. Anyone ever found room for a volatage > regulator on the back of a doghouse fan-shroud? Trying to picture one in my > mind........hmmmmmmm Maybe towards the top? > > If all else fails one of the internally-regulated alternators would just > plug-right-in.....(but it'd be big and fat and less pleasing to my eyes). > > > -Garrett > > > > ----- Original Message ---- > From: marc vellat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: Air-Cooled Volkswagen Discussion List <[email protected]> > Sent: Friday, March 2, 2007 10:52:49 AM > Subject: Re: [vintagvw] Alternator / Generator conversion in an early car > > > I suppose it's more embarrassing than humorous, but I > was deep in the woods without a spare fanbelt and a high-compression engine > that never would've made it the eight miles back to civilization without some > cooling. November `84, took my wife and 1-year-old daughter up to Snoqualmie > national Forest to cut our own Christmas tree. Flat-towed a P.O.S. `69 bug > into which I'd slapped a spare race engine up to the Ranger station, bought > our tree tag and headed out. Of COURSE I went to the "4WD VEHICLES ONLY" > area, figuring on finding more trees to choose from there - and all the way > in we kept meeting Jeeps packing out some lovely trees. What we found was a > lot of 30 to 50 foot trees that had been felled just to take the tops off > (strictly verboten, but the classless 4-wheelers obviously didn't care). I > looked for virgin trails and found one winding up a hillside but we came > around a turn and found it blocked by a fallen tree. At this point the "road" > was less than 15 feet wide (between the mountain side and the cliff side, as > Arl o Guthrie would say) and it took a fair amount of jockeying to turn the car around, during which the rapidly-revving engine (~300° cam and lightened flywheel) tossed its belt...that now resembles a Möbius strip, so it's not going back on. No big deal, says I, I'd grabbed the emergency parts/tools from the trunk of my wife's Squareback before we left town... Yes, I spaced out and didn't think of the difference in belt length between a Type I and a III. Y'know those black rubber bands used to keep tire chains snug? I had several of THOSE along, and they'll actually work as a fanbelt provided you keep the RPM low and don't let it change rapidly (as if THAT were possible with the engine I had on those trails). I had to keep stopping to put the bands back on, took eight tries to make it half a mile and it was threatening to get dark soon. We had survival gear and food & water, but spending the night cooped up in a bug with a baby was NOT in the plan. So we unpacked the rear to acc ess the voltage regulator under the seat, and I connected > D+ to B+ and DF to ground, tossed everything back in > and made it down the mountain just as it was getting > too dark to see without headlights. By now the battery > was getting pretty weak - we MIGHT have made it the > few more miles of paved road to the Ranger station but > had to stop for a multi-car accident and of course the > car wouldn't restart. I went from car to car looking > for someone with jumper cables who'd be willing to put > a little charge back in my battery. One guy happened > to have a PILE of fan belts in the back of his Chev > pickup - I never asked why, but was delighted to find > one that looked VW-sized. It fit, I restored the > generator wiring to stock and bump-started the car and > the adventure was behind us. > Bought a tree at the Boy Scout lot on the way home and > kept that dayglo-orange USFS tree-tag hanging from my > mirror for a couple of years as a reminder to prepare THOROUGHLY before going > off into the boonies. > > --- Sharkey's Garage <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >>As for Marc's "amusing anecdote", I'm sure that I'm >>not the only one here >>that's a little curious to hear it. 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