Hey Bert, unless you have any scratches or oxidization I don't think abrasive is the way to go with your car. Claybar removes stuck on stuff on your paint. Its literally a bar of clay that you rub across your paints finish with a lubricant to pick up the stuck on tar, bird droppings whatever is stuck on. Before I wax my car I usually use dish soap which should remove all residual waxes(Car wash soap won't remove wax). I only dish soap when I want to remove wax and prep the finish. Otherwise Mothers car wash soap is what I use.. Plus it smells nice! To me it sounds like you might be dealing with residual wax. But that's just my take on it. -Kirin
On Wed, Oct 30, 2013 at 11:23 AM, Bert Knupp <[email protected]> wrote: > Volks, > > Okay, I’m getting some insights. To answer some of Dan and Kirin’s > questions: > > =No, I didn’t remove any old wax, though it was about 7 months old and no > longer beading water – at least, not on the roof or front hood. I waxed it > when it was freshly washed but dry. > =I’m not familiar with Claybar. I’ll have to look around. My FLAPS > doesn’t > stock it, or I’ve just not noticed the brand. > =My car is Fir Green with Traffic White fenders (German RAL police colors > as > of 1970). > =The finish feels smooth and does not “pull” as I apply the wax. As I > said, > it has also never had an abrasive polish. Maybe its time is coming for a > mild polish. > =I’m listening to you guys’ advice and “pondering these things in my > heart.” > I might re-do the project when the weather clears up. > > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On > Behalf > Of Dan Moy > Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2013 1:07 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [vintagvw] Polishes and waxes > > Bert, > > A few questions: > > (1) What color is your car? > (2) When you touch the paint with a clean hand does the surface feel very > smooth? > > Here is what I do: > > If the paint is rough to your touch I do the following after the car has > been thoroughly cleaned (and not dried, I leave the car wet) if not clean > an > wax > > (1) Clay Bar > (2) If the paint is scratched machine poslish with 3M Finesse-it > (3) Machine Polish with 3M Imperial hand glaze > > Clean the car again to remove all polish residue and dry > > For wax my recommendations: > > (1) For light colored cars "Liquid Glass" easy to apply and remove by hand > and lasts a long time > > (2) For dark colored cars or black "Gliptone Wet Coat /w Carnauba Show > Gloss" this is one of the few that do not leave streaks but it is important > to do small areas at a time and use a clean cloth to remove. > > Dan-out > > > > > On Wed, Oct 30, 2013 at 1:27 PM, Kirin Jacobsen <[email protected]> > wrote: > Hey Bert, > I'm curious did you prep the cars surface properly by removing the old > waxes? Personally I'm not a big "Detailing" guy although my bug in its > latest iteration is far too clean for the likes of me. I have heard good > things about Griots garage products. Also there is a series on youtube > called #driveclean that is run by a passionate New Yorker who seems to know > his stuff. Personally with Mothers Products I have gone through all their > steps(And claybar too) and been happy with the finish. > > On Wed, Oct 30, 2013 at 10:21 AM, Bert Knupp <[email protected]> > wrote: > Volks, > > My bug got new paint about 5 years ago; it's in excellent shape. I keep > the > car in a carport, with a soft car cover much of the time. I've kept a good > quality new-car wax on it -- most recently Meguire's, and before that > Turtle > Wax brand new-car wax (not their abrasive polish). Haven't used a polish > yet. > > So this week when my bottle of Meguire's ran out, I bought some Mother's > "California Gold" Pure Carnauba Wax. (Step 3, nonabrasive). I didn't use > their Step 1 Cleaner or Step 2 Sealer as I didn't think I need them. I > like > the company because they support regional VW shows with handouts, > advertising, and promotional stuff (very clever "do not touch" signs, > etc.), > so thought I'd buy their product. > > I'm disappointed, but don't know whether I've done something wrong, or > whether it's the product's fault. I followed directions carefully (I've > also done this a time or two) and buffed and rubbed everything by hand. > The > finish is hazy, streaky, and instantly shows every fingerprint and touch. > The wax -- even thoroughly dried and wiped -- is soft and smudges easily. > I've never had this problem with Turtle Wax brand or Meguire's brand > products. > > What are your observations? Can you recommend any good surface protection > for a show car that will keep rain beading and look good for a full season? > I'm in a hot Southern climate that still hits single digits in the > wintertime. > > Bert Knupp > > > __n|_ > °(_____)º > (ô\_|_/ô) > U° °U > Polizeikäfer '70 > > > > -- > Visit the VintagVW archives at > http://mail-archive.com/[email protected] > --- > > -- > Visit the VintagVW archives at > http://mail-archive.com/[email protected] > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "VintagVW - Air Cooled Volkswagen Discussion List" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vintagvw. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > -- Visit the VintagVW archives at http://mail-archive.com/[email protected] --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VintagVW - Air Cooled Volkswagen Discussion List" group. 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