Not exactly. For example; control.frame = CGRectMake(0, 0, 100, 30);
You may be able to glean from this that the visual frame of the control is a rectangle which has its top left corner placed at 0,0 on the screen, which is at the top-most left corner of the display. The control also is 100 pixels long and 30 pixels from top to bottom. Does this make sense? In this way one whom cannot see can at least conceive of where controls are placed and how they relate to each other. No, it's certainly not perfect, but it is doable. :) HTH and have a great day!… Smiles, Cara :) On May 31, 2012, at 7:41 AM, Brent Harding wrote: Wouldn't this command line thing be a lot like blind guys trying CAD? What I mean is that I've been retyping these tutorials for a work experience with a job coach, and CAD is a mix of gui and command line, and I don't get conceptually what the tutorials are coming to as their end result. ----- Original Message ----- From: Jan Blüher To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2012 8:45 AM Subject: Re: IOS development Hallo Rob and Igor, here comes the link to the Apple developer registration page, where you can read more about the things you will have access to: https://developer.apple.com/programs/register/ Good luck Jan --- ColorVisor - The app to identify colors. Available on the App Store: http://itunes.com/app/ColorVisor --- Dr. Jan Blüher visorApps - Accessible apps for iPad & iPhone Bayreuther Str. 2 D-01187 Dresden Germany phone: +49 (0) 351 16053907 mobile: +49 (0) 176 34926242 e-mail: jan.blue...@visorapps.com web: http://visorApps.com Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/#visorApps Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/VisorApps tax number: DE281706766 Am 31.05.2012 um 14:31 schrieb Rob Harris: > This is something I'd like, not done programming for a while, but did a > degree in the stuff using a range of languages at the time. so how do > we > join this club? happy to hear we can type our own way without all the > visual-blah mentality! > > Thanks, RobH. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jan Blüher" <jn.b...@googlemail.com> > To: <viphone@googlegroups.com> > Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2012 1:20 PM > Subject: Re: IOS development > > > Hallo Igor, > > Xcode is the only tool you can use for iOS development. there is no way > around. However, Xcode is quite accessible and blind people can use it, as I > do. > > The thing that is not accessible is the so-called Interface Builder, with > which you can click and drag your user interface. But this is no problem. > Everything can be done programmatically. There is a lot of documentation on > Apple's developer portal at http://developer.apple.com . It is very covering > and accessible. You have to register as an developer (for free) to get > access. > > Do you have some experiences in programming? > > Greetings > > Jan > > --- > ColorVisor - The app to identify colors. > Now available on the iTunes App Store: > http://itunes.apple.com/de/app/colorvisor/id511093568?mt=8&ls=1 > --- > Dr. Jan Blüher > visorApps - Accessible apps for iPad & iPhone > Bayreuther Str. 2 > D-01187 Dresden > Germany > > phone: +49 (0) 351 16053907 > mobile: +49 (0) 176 34926242 > e-mail: jan.blue...@visorapps.com > web: http://visorApps.com > Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/#visorApps > Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/VisorApps > > tax number: DE281706766 > > > > > Am 31.05.2012 um 13:24 schrieb Igor Kaplan: > >> Hi dear listers, >> >> I believe, we have some blind IOS developers on this list, so would like >> to ask some questions as a very beginner IOS developer. >> I believe, the part of XCode which builds the user interface is not >> accessible, at least it is rather complex to use it with VoiceOver. >> I wander, is there a good documentation, how to create and use IOS >> controls, such as buttons, Text boxes and so on by code instead of using >> the XCode? >> I am probably not using the correct terminology here, I am windows >> developer just starting with IOS. >> I have looked at several books about IOS developments, however all of >> them are talking about using XCode while building the User interface. So >> far I am not able to find the documentation, which would give me a good >> reference, how to do the controls layout by code. >> Would so much appreciate, if someone could please point me to such >> resource. >> >> Many thanks and have a wonderful day! >> >> Igor. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" >> Google Group. >> To search the VIPhone public archive, visit >> http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. >> To post to this group, send email toviph...@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email >> toviphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google > Group. > To search the VIPhone public archive, visit > http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. > To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google > Group. > To search the VIPhone public archive, visit > http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. > To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group > athttp://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google Group. 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