I can't speak to Window Eyes, but JAWS is still superior to VoiceOver. No doubt Apple has done extraordinary things in accessibility, but the level of access to applications on the PC remains better with the dreaded third party solution. Hopefully this will change, but Office is just one example where my access to document manipulation and formatting sorely lacks in OSX. Give credit where credit is due, but let's not exaggerate either by saying VoiceOver reigns supreme.--Joe
-----Original Message----- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Daniel Miller Sent: Sunday, June 24, 2012 8:58 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: OT: Why Did Apple Create VoiceOver? Hi, I completely agree here. Just look at other companies, Microsoft for example, a company that claims all their products are accessible to persons with disibilities. That statement couldn't be any more wrong. I myself would much rather pay a premium for an apple product with accessibility built in out of the box, as opposed to paying the same price for another screen access solution, on top of a PC with Windows. Yes, VO isn't perfect, but it's leaps and bounds over what other companies like Freedom scientific and GW Micro could ever dream of creating. I'm sorry if my post strayed off topic, I just can't help but admit I'm also a fanboy and an Apple geek. P.S.: I can't wait to see them try to make Windows RT accessible on tablets. -----Original Message----- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Scott Howell Sent: Sunday, June 24, 2012 7:37 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: OT: Why Did Apple Create VoiceOver? Craig, I am not sure you will find a specific reason. I have heard stories that range from Apple facing a lawsuit (not likely at all) to some child of an engineer (more likely) who was blind. I suspect the real reason is that Apple saw an opportunity and opted to take a risk which I should note has paid in spades. Apple has done more than any other "mainstream" company has ever done. In fact I will go as far as to say that VO on an iOS device is revolutionary and really changed how blind people interact with touch-screen devices. VO has really leveled the playing field in ways no other screen reader has been able. I think Apple realized the success of VO on the Mac and heard from users they wanted access to iPods, iPhones, etc. There is no question that VO on iOS has been wildly successful. Oh and yes for the record I am a fanboy and thrilled to be such. However, for the record VO like any screen reading solution is not perfect; although it does one hell of a job. :) On Jun 24, 2012, at 7:32 AM, Craig Werner <coffeeb...@gmail.com> wrote: > Greetings to the list. > > Over on the vi-kindle email list from freelists.org, a user asked a > penetrating question: "Why did Apple build accessibility into all of > its products?" Knowing the answer to this query might prove helpful > as blind and visually impaired people work with other companies to > make their products more accessible. I have heard that Apple made the > iPod accessible because it was looking out for motorists who might be > better served by finding music by touch than by diverting their gaze > from the road to look at a screen. However, this information is > anecdotal. Can anyone point to evidence right from the company as to > why VoiceOver was integrated into the Apple line? I'm looking for the > facts, not conjecture. <smile> Since this question is off topic, if > you'll email me off list, I'll summarize to the list. > > Thank you for all help. > > Craig > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google Group. > To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. > To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
