Ok, this is coming from a partial, but car routes are so fun. I use 
mapquest4mobile in car mode to impress my iphone owning sighted friends, and 
know where I am with all the signs I can't read.  I think it also be useful to 
totals, as if needed for helping their sighted drivers, as said here.

On Aug 9, 2012, at 10:12 PM, Christopher Chaltain wrote:

> I'm not sure car routes aren't important to us. My sighted wife does all
> of the driving, and she used to, and probably still does, use a GPS
> device. Since I started using MapQuest though, she prefers to let me do
> the navigating while she's doing the driving. I think there's a lot less
> tension in the car now since we started doing this!
> 
> Also, if I'm asking someone for a ride, I don't expect them to always
> know where i need to go. Unless they're going there as well, I think
> it's my responsibility to know where I need to go, the address of where
> I'm going and the directions on how to get there.
> 
> On 09/08/12 22:05, Gail the U. S. Male wrote:
>> Certainly it is a tool, to be used in conjunction with cane, or dog, and
>> your mobility training.  No, it won't get you exactly there, but it sure
>> comes in handy for keeping track of what streets you're walking on, and
>> where you are.  Car routes don't matter as much to us, because *hopefully*
>> you're not driving, and have a sighted person doing that part, and they can
>> read the signs. LOL!
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf
>> Of Ron Pelletier
>> Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2012 4:49 PM
>> To: [email protected]
>> Subject: RE: GPS Apps & Stand-A-Lone GPS Units
>> 
>> Eileen,
>> 
>> I am so glad you brought that up.  Ever since my very first Trekker about 5
>> years ago, I have been saying that a GPS is a good mobility tool and nothing
>> else.  As well as helping you, it can also get you killed if you pay more
>> attention to it than to your orientation and mobility.  You must never pay
>> so much attention to the device that you forget to pay attention to what you
>> are doing.  If I am about to cross a street and the GPS talks while I am
>> reading my traffic, I ignore it and make my crossing as I have been trained
>> to do and just stop and press the repeat button on the other side.  It also
>> seems to me like too many people think that the GPS will go and place your
>> hand on the door knob.  I am lucky to get within 10 metres of a target and
>> use my dog's and my ability to do the rest.  
>> 
>> Ron & Danvers
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf
>> Of Eileen Misrahi
>> Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2012 12:28 PM
>> To: [email protected]
>> Subject: GPS Apps & Stand-A-Lone GPS Units
>> 
>> Hi, 
>> 
>> I have been following this thread and I am concern that individuals are
>> relying too much on GPS apps or stand-a-lone GPS units. We must remember
>> that GPS is only a tool and it doesn't replace our orientation and mobility
>> skills. It's to give us information and the information is only as good as
>> the databases that the GPS apps or separate units have access to. This past
>> weekend I was up in San Francisco and all three GPS products were having
>> issues in giving precise information. At one point, all of them stated to
>> turn left where there was a "No Left Turn" sign (car route mode). I
>> understand that the choices we make regarding which GPS apps one will use is
>> a personal matter, and individual GPS apps should not be knocked. This can
>> give a misconception to those who haven't purchased a GPS app for their
>> phone. As one of the other posts stated, it will all change when the iPhone5
>> will be available regarding the purchasing of GPS apps. I just hope that
>> Apple gets it right the first time. Now!! I will probably be cut down for
>> this, but it is the Sendero GPS on my Apex that I eventually turn on to get
>> more precise information and options that are not  available on my GPS apps
>> on the phone. At least I have lots of options to get the info that I need
>> when I am out-and-about. However, these options do not replace my ability to
>> travel with the white cane. 
>> 
>> Thanks for listening. 
>> 
>> Eileen 
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