Sorry, Daniel: Can I just confirm what you mean here? you write: I can confirm it's fixed, unless I'm paranoid, and it's truly not? I'm using a Focus 40 Blue. So you're saying, it is fixed and you're not just imagining it! Well, if that's the case, it's good, good news. I'm running a 4Ness, by the way, but that shouldn't make a difference.
Carol P ----- Original Message ----- From: brian albriton <autoharp...@gmail.com> To: viphone@googlegroups.com CC: Date: Monday, 3 August 2015 1.33 pm Subject: Re: APPLE SUPPORT For BRAILLE > > > I'd like to be sure that the cursor issue is fixed it is an abysmal process > trying to track where you are with the braille device > > > > On Aug 3, 2015, at 5.28 AM, Daniel Miller <miller...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Hi Carol, > > I just did a few tests, and yes, I can confirm it's fixed, unless I'm > paranoid, and it's truly not? I'm using a Focus 40 Blue. 0was On Aug 3, 2015, at 7.19 AM, ',c;arol.,p;earso...@googlemail.com' via VIPhone <viphone@googlegroups.com> wrote: 0was 0was I didn't notice this to be fixed and in fact think I saw that very bug a couple of days ago. 0was 0was However, I'll do a specific test and make sure. 0was 0was Carol P 0was >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: Daniel Miller >>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >>> Sent: Monday, August 03, 2015 12.00 PM >>> Subject: Re: APPLE SUPPORT For BRAILLE >>> >>> Hi, Johnathon, >>> >>> Actually, I'd like to correct you on one thing. If you recall, there's a >>> bug in iOS 8 where if you're correcting a spelling mistake you made, and >>> you insert a letter that's also a contraction, the letter would get >>> expanded into said contraction. That's been fixed, as far as I could tell. >>> >>>> On Aug 3, 2015, at 4.42 AM, Jonathan Mosen <jmo...@mosen.org> wrote: >>>> >>>> There is no change of any significance to the defects in Braille with iOS >>>> 9. >>>> I can only conclude Apple has no one working there who understands how >>>> Braille users work with their devices. >>>> Jonathan Mosen >>>> Mosen Consulting >>>> Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training >>>> http://,m;osen.org >>>> >>>>> On 2/08/2015, at 5.11 am, ',c;arol.,p;earso...@googlemail.com' via >>>>> VIPhone <viphone@googlegroups.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Don't they already? But they don't really work well, do they? >>>>> >>>>> Carol P >>>>> >>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>>> From: Donna >>>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >>>>>> Sent: Saturday, August 01, 2015 5.42 PM >>>>>> Subject: Re: APPLE SUPPORT For BRAILLE >>>>>> >>>>>> I'll just say that IOS will have specific settings for those who use >>>>>> braille displays. >>>>>> >>>>>> Donna >>>>>> >>>>>>> On Aug 1, 2015, at 12.33 PM, ',c;arol.,p;earso...@googlemail.com' via >>>>>>> VIPhone <viphone@googlegroups.com> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Hi all, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I know you can't really disclose Apple's plans, as it were, for IOS9, >>>>>>> but I wonder if any of you testers can assure me you use the Braille >>>>>>> facilities and are looking to iron out some of the abysmal drawbacks of >>>>>>> using a Braille display at present. The time lag of the display is one >>>>>>> of the things I am passionate about and another is the way in which the >>>>>>> cursor appears to be unable to follow the Braille very accurately and I >>>>>>> am not always sure exactly where I am placed. I shouldn't have to pick >>>>>>> up my phone to check this out. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On a general issue and not just looking at what's to come, I'd also be >>>>>>> interested in any settings you have that make the lagging less for you, >>>>>>> together with which display you're using. Perhaps everyone has "given >>>>>>> up" with Braille input in this way now. We shouldn't have to, though, >>>>>>> and of course, deaf-blind friends still need this, even if we can >>>>>>> perhaps manage in other ways. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> If Jonathan Moson is reading this, Jonathan, has Apple stopped >>>>>>> listening to your comments on using Braille displays? 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I'm using a Focus 40 Blue. > > On Aug 3, 2015, at 7.19 AM, ',c;arol.,p;earso...@googlemail.com' via VIPhone > <viphone@googlegroups.com> wrote: > > > I didn't notice this to be fixed and in fact think I saw that very bug a > couple of days ago. > > However, I'll do a specific test and make sure. > > Carol P > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Daniel Miller > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Sent: Monday, August 03, 2015 12.00 PM > Subject: Re: APPLE SUPPORT For BRAILLE > > > Hi, Johnathon, > > > Actually, I'd like to correct you on one thing. If you recall, there's a bug > in iOS 8 where if you're correcting a spelling mistake you made, and you > insert a letter that's also a contraction, the letter would get expanded into > said contraction. That's been fixed, as far as I could tell. > > > On Aug 3, 2015, at 4.42 AM, Jonathan Mosen <jmo...@mosen.org> wrote: > > > There is no change of any significance to the defects in Braille with iOS 9. > I can only conclude Apple has no one working there who understands how > Braille users work with their devices. > > Jonathan Mosen > Mosen Consulting > Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training > http://,m;osen.org > > > On 2/08/2015, at 5.11 am, ',c;arol.,p;earso...@googlemail.com' via VIPhone > <viphone@googlegroups.com> wrote: > > > Don't they already? But they don't really work well, do they? > > Carol P > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Donna > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Sent: Saturday, August 01, 2015 5.42 PM > Subject: Re: APPLE SUPPORT For BRAILLE > > > I'll just say that IOS will have specific settings for those who use braille > displays. > > > Donna > > On Aug 1, 2015, at 12.33 PM, ',c;arol.,p;earso...@googlemail.com' via VIPhone > <viphone@googlegroups.com> wrote: > > > Hi all, > > I know you can't really disclose Apple's plans, as it were, for IOS9, but I > wonder if any of you testers can assure me you use the Braille facilities and > are looking to iron out some of the abysmal drawbacks of using a Braille > display at present. The time lag of the display is one of the things I am > passionate about and another is the way in which the cursor appears to be > unable to follow the Braille very accurately and I am not always sure exactly > where I am placed. 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