The problem with sling is that if I am watching a channel offered through this 
service on one television another individual in my home could not watch a 
different channel at the same time. According to them this is something that 
they are working on to improve or change.

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> On Aug 18, 2015, at 5:23 PM, Fred Olver <goodfo...@charter.net> wrote:
> 
> You may or may not be able to reduce your cable subscription to cable. The 
> problem is that in order to receive several of the channels offered on the 
> Apple TV one must be able to get those channels presently on their cable. 
> Suggest you think about getting an app called Sling TV for your phone, see 
> information below.
> 
> below...
> Imagine everything you liked about cable. You probably enjoyed surfing the 
> channels, watching the shows people were talking about when they aired 
> instead of months after. And, if you were lucky enough to own boxes of a 
> certain caliber, pausing and rewinding said TV shows in real time.
> Now, imagine everything you hated: the costly bill at the end of the month, 
> the bulky, expensive equipment that marred the side of your house and 
> entertainment center. Not to mention the service contract that never seemed 
> to end.
> But what if you could get everything you loved about TV without any of those 
> gripes?
> That, in a nutshell, is Sling TV.
> It's live TV streaming whenever and wherever. No contracts, no equipment and 
> no costly statement.
> Sling TV? Is it the same thing as a Slingbox?While there are some concepts 
> borrowed from Slingbox, Sling TV is in a different league when it comes to 
> cutting the cord.
> Sling TV is a US-only service offered from DISH that allows you to watch the 
> channels you'd typically find on basic cable for $20 a month without a 
> contract, subscription to DISH or any pesky cable equipment on your roof or 
> in your living room.
> What devices can I use to watch it?Create an account on DISH's website and 
> use that info to login to the app on iOS, Android, Amazon Fire TV and Amazon 
> Fire TV Stick, Google's Nexus Player, Xbox One and Roku TV. The service will 
> also work on select LG and Samsung smart TVs, and on Macs and PCs via a 
> website portal. The service is expected to come to Google Chromecastlater 
> this year.
> 
> 
> The system is more eloquent than apps like TWC TV or Xfinity, and while the 
> latter is almost universally available, trying to remember whose name and 
> email you use to login can ruin a session before it even starts.
> What channels are included?So far, channels on the basic, $20-per-month plan 
> include ESPN, ESPN2, TNT, TBS, HGTV, DIY Network, Food Network, Travel 
> Channel, CNN, Cartoon Network, ABC Family, Disney Channel, AMC, IFC and, most 
> recently, A&E, History, H2, Lifetime, Bloomberg and most recently, Polaris+.
> The biggest change to this roster is HBO. Starting April 12 for the premiere 
> of the new season of Game of Thrones, Sling TV will offer live HBO for $15 a 
> month to current "Best of Live TV" subscribers. Also new is the addition of 
> DishWorld multi-lingual content to Sling TV.
> In addition to the base subscription, seven add-on packages are available for 
> $5 apiece each month:
> a.. Kids Extra, with Disney Jr, Disney XD, Boomerang, Duck TV, and Baby TV.
> b.. Sports Extra, which includes the SEC Network, ESPNEWS, ESPNU, Universal 
> Sports, Univision Deportes, beIN Sports, ESPN Buzzer Beater, ESPN Bases 
> Loaded and ESPN Goal Line.
> c.. Lifestyle extra, with Cooking Channel, DIY, truTV, WE tv, FYI, and LMN.
> d.. Hollywood Extra, which includes live and video-on-demand content from 
> EPIX, EPIX2, EPIX3, EPIX Drive-In, Sundance TV and Turner Classic Movies (TCM)
> e.. World News Extra, with HLN, News 18 India, Euronews, NDTV 24x7, France24 
> and RT.
> f.. Deportes Extra includes Azteca, beIN Español, beIN HD (English), 
> Univison, Univision Deportes and UniMás.
> g.. Películas & Novelas Extra includes Azteca Corazon, Cinelatino, De 
> Película, De Película Clasico, Pasiones, Univision tlnovelas, Univision and 
> UniMás.
> FunctionalityNow, remember when you asked about Slingbox? Well, it's true, 
> Sling TV and Slingbox share a few similarities beyond the first syllable.
> Sling TV allows you to pause, rewind and fast-forward live TV on some 
> channels (note the word "some" there), and the ability to watch shows a few 
> days after they've aired.
> 
> 
> Also similar to Slingbox, Sling TV lets you watch its service on most mobile 
> devices anywhere in the world. That is, as long as you can establish and 
> maintain a bitrate of about 1.5 Mbps for high-quality streams, 0.8Mbps for 
> medium resolution, and 0.5 Mbps for low-quality.
> Sling TV on Roku TechRadar was given two platforms to test Sling TV. One was 
> Roku (specifically on a Roku 3) and the other was iOS, which we'll get to in 
> a minute.
> By and large, the experience on Roku was everything I've come to love about a 
> cable box: simple functionality, clean layout and crisp picture. Installing 
> the app was as easy as going to Roku channel store, finding the Sling TV app 
> and pushing it to my Roku 3.
> Coming from the home screen, Sling TV's interface loads up In a matter of 
> seconds. The time it takes to get from home screen to live TV is astonishing 
> - it's leagues faster than the time it takes my DirecTV cable box to boot up.
> Once loaded, the stream was crisp and clear. (This obviously is a YMMV 
> situation, as my home setup isn't identical - or even necessarily in the same 
> ballpark - as everyone else.) A quick test of my network showed I was pulling 
> around 26Mbps over Wi-Fi, which worked fairly well at high-quality 1080p 99% 
> of the time.
> 
> 
> The only stark contrast to traditional cable, at this point at least, is the 
> amount of content available on Sling TV.
> Comparatively, the 40-or-so channels offered on Sling TV are just a drop in 
> the bucket compared to the over-800 I have available on DirecTV. And because 
> you aren't able to record a show like you can on TiVo, you're limited to 
> watching whatever's on or whatever's been on in the past few days.
> Sling TV on iOSSling TV on iOS is a vastly different experience. Not only are 
> you trading down to a smaller screen size, but you're also losing connection 
> stability and clean interface of the set-top app.
> Using an iPhone 5S for testing, I took Sling TV with me for a gauntlet of 
> daily errands. As you might expect, over LTE the stream was nearly flawless. 
> Dropping down to 3G, however, presented real problems as seconds slipped away 
> to buffering screens.
> 
> 
> Problematically, when you return home, continuing what you were watching on 
> your phone isn't as simple as starting up your Roku. You'll need to go into 
> the menu, find the show you were watching and rewind it manually.
> DISH is clearly (and rightfully) afraid of the account-sharing trap that has 
> befallen HBO Go and Netflix, and doesn't allow two devices using the same 
> account to run the service simultaneously.
> Trying to use both a phone and a Roku at the same time won't work either. 
> DISH is clearly (and rightfully) afraid of the account-sharing trap that has 
> befallen HBO Go and Netflix, and doesn't allow two devices using the same 
> account to run the service simultaneously.
> Overall, I found the iOS experience less enjoyable than the set-top app, but 
> still impressive. Being able to take TV figuratively anywhere is an 
> appealing, practical proposition for morning commuters or long-distance 
> travelers.
> Sling TV on Amazon Fire TVSling TV made a splash this week by offering a a 
> free Fire TV Stick to new subscribers. To activate your subscription on your 
> new device, check out Sling TV on the "featured app" section of the 
> storefront, start the download, enter in your account info and soon you'll 
> have live TV on your favorite Amazon device.
> The interface on Amazon Fire TV looks almost identical to the service on 
> Roku, which is to say clean and convenient. Pressing the "list" button on 
> Fire TV remotes brings up a channel listing while the three media control 
> buttons do their things on playback-enabled channels.
> The service looks a little clearer than it did on Roku - Sling probably set 
> the highest visual quality as a default on Amazon devices - but it does seem 
> to hit a few more snags. The system was stuck in buffering for such a long 
> time at one point that it completely shutoff. Whether this was a one-time 
> fluke or a persistent problem remains to be seen...
> 
> 
> Sling TV on Xbox OneWhen I heard Sling was shooting for five platforms in 
> five months, I had my doubts it could keep up with the development pace. Yet 
> here we are just two months later talking about the fourth version of the 
> system, XboxOne.
> If you've used the service on any of the set-top boxes so far, you'll 
> probably know what to expect here.
> The channel interface is brought up with a flick of the stick in any 
> direction, while the menu button (formerly known as start) opens up a menu 
> for video-on-demand movies. Last but not least is the share button (again, 
> formerly known as back) that brings up a menu that filters channels by 
> category.
> One major change worth noting is that Sling - unlike some apps on Xbox One - 
> actually utilizes the Kinect to take in voice commands and allows you to pin 
> both video-on-demand and specific channels to your home screen.
> During testing I noticed a fair bit of latency (38ms compared to 30 on my 
> tablet), which caused the service to stop and stutter multiple times. This 
> occurred with a 4.24Mbps download speed and could be a worrying sign for 
> potential Xbox One users.
> Fred OlverOverall the service looks great and is functionally stable on Xbox 
> One, but its performance - as users have noted in the comments - will 
> definitely vary depending on your connection speed.
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Laury-Johnson, Shawnese (LARA)" 
> <laury-johns...@michigan.gov>
> To: <viphone@googlegroups.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2015 10:26 AM
> Subject: RE: Apple Tv
> 
> 
> Thank you so much. I'm definitely going to wait. I'm thinking of reducing my 
> current cable subscription down tremendously after getting the apple tv.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Sieghard Weitzel
> Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2015 11:12 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Apple Tv
> 
> Nobody knows which if any of the new features will be supported by the third 
> generation Apple TV. It is likely that one of the big features will be an app 
> store for the Apple TV which allows you to install apps which third party 
> developers will make. These could be anything from games to apps from 
> organisations like CNN or BBC to apps from music services like Spotify, 
> Deezer and so on. This will hugely enhance the functionality and usefulness 
> of the Apple TV since it of course is logical that you may want to play 
> content from a music service or news organization via your TV or sound system 
> the Apple TV is attached to. Of course the app store may be supported by the 
> third gen Apple TV, but nobody can say for sure.
> Another expected enhancement to the Apple TV is SIRI integration and control. 
> My guess is that you will be able to talk to the Apple TV via the remote and 
> tell it to open a certain app or play something etc. I highly doubt that the 
> third gen Apple TV which is already 3-year old hardware will be able to 
> support this.
> Next is the upcoming offering of a subscription based TV service. Once again, 
> maybe this will be supported or maybe not.
> One should keep in mind that while the second gen Apple TV still can play 
> Netflix and a bunch of the existing channels, it does not even have Youtube 
> support any more. This quietly disappeared a few months ago.
> Lastly there is the expected integration and support of many connected home 
> automation devices like thermostats, lights, locks and so on. You may not 
> have these now, but such devices will be the norm rather than the exception 
> in the coming years.
> 
> I think in general that it is simply a bad idea to rush out and buy an Apple 
> TV now even though it may only be $50 especially because we already know from 
> rumours that a new Apple TV maybe announced as soon as September 9. That is 
> only 3 weeks away and within another week or so we probably know for sure if 
> Apple is sending out invites for a September 9 event or if it will be held a 
> week later. Why not wait these few weeks and see what happens, if no Apple TV 
> is forthcoming you can still spend your $50 in 3 weeks, but what you can 
> currently do with the Apple TV will not replace your existing cable 
> subscription.
> I would give the same advice to somebody who wants to buy a new iPhone 
> although that is a bit different because iPhones are updated annually whereas 
> the last Apple TV update was 3 years ago. It is my guess that while a new 
> Apple TV will probably cost more than $50, it will not be hundreds of Dollars 
> simply because it is in Apple's interest to keep the price low so people get 
> it and then subscribe to channels, consume paid iTunes content or buy apps 
> from the new Apple TV app store which of course will generate a new source of 
> income for Apple.
> 
> 
> 
> Best regards,
> Sieghard
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Laury-Johnson, Shawnese (LARA)
> Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2015 4:53 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Apple Tv
> 
> I have another question about the apple tv with regards to getting it now or 
> waiting for the new version to be released. If I get it now and they do come 
> out with a new version will I be able to update what I have or will I have to 
> purchase something additional?
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Brian Fischler
> Sent: Monday, August 17, 2015 4:59 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Apple Tv
> 
> If you have the extra money why wait for the new Apple TV which we do not 
> know when it will be coming, you can buy an Apple TV on Amazon currently for 
> $50, totally worth it. And on another note you do not need a TV to connect it 
> to if you have a receiver or Sound Bar as I hooked mine up without a TV via 
> optical cable $5 bucks for the cable on Amazon. Good luck.
>> On Aug 17, 2015, at 1:42 PM, Chuck Dean <chuckd...@icloud.com> wrote:
>> 
>> I just replaced my Roku box with an Apple TV. The AppleTV is very 
>> accessible, and easy to use. The Roku box has absolutely no excess ability 
>> whatsoever, and was almost impossible for me to see what was on the screen.
>> 
>> I plan to wait and see what the new AppleTV brings, I may buy it and replace 
>> my current Apple TV box, which I bought about a month ago.
>> 
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