Interesting about Verizon. When I did the deal with T-Mobile last week, or 
maybe it was two weeks ago, I got a Sim card from them. They explained that 
once I got my phone, I had the choice of putting this new one in, or using one 
that should already be in the phone. But I gathered that the one in the phone 
of course would not be programmed. Who knows? I guess I'll find out when I get 
my phone. This may require another trip to the T-Mobile store.
Mary

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> On Sep 21, 2015, at 10:26 AM, John Diakogeorgiou <[email protected]> 
> wrote:
> 
> I was talking to Verizon about this earlier. They send their phones
> out preprogramed.
> 
>> On 9/21/15, Mary Otten <[email protected]> wrote:
>> I was kind of hoping that I would be able to take the phone out of the box,
>> and connect it to my Mac, where the backup of my old phone is encrypted.
>> Then I can restore from that, and then fool with upgrading the Sim card. Or
>> I should say programming the Sim card. Or whatever you call it. The store
>> has always done it in the past, but I stayed on the same carrier then.
>> Mary
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Sep 21, 2015, at 8:27 AM, John Diakogeorgiou <[email protected]>
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I forgot about that. I've always started by programing the phone
>>> first. I don't know if that varies from carier to carier though.
>>> 
>>>> On 9/21/15, Mary Otten <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> No, I am changing carriers, and I had to turn in the phone as part of
>>>> the
>>>> deal moving to the new carrier. But I will have the the old phone until
>>>> I
>>>> get the new phone up and running of course.
>>>> Mary
>>>> 
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>> 
>>>>> On Sep 21, 2015, at 7:45 AM, John Diakogeorgiou
>>>>> <[email protected]>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Are you planning to keep the old phone active?
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 9/21/15, Mary Otten <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>> I got the word from T-Mobile that my new iPhone should be here today.
>>>>>> Of
>>>>>> course I still have my old one. The question I have is how to get from
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> old one to the new one, including installation and activation of the
>>>>>> Sim
>>>>>> card, and specifically when that happens. I'm not expecting anybody to
>>>>>> tell
>>>>>> me how to activate a Sim card, as that would be done with the T-Mobile
>>>>>> website. But when do you do that? Is that the first thing you do
>>>>>> before
>>>>>> you
>>>>>> turn on the iPhone? Or do you go through the entire restoration from
>>>>>> iTunes,
>>>>>> and then once the phone has everything in it, you activate the Sim
>>>>>> card?
>>>>>> Mary
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
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