Hi Alan,
I agree with you about the email app. I don't see where the Pek and pop thing 
is going to do us a lot of good as voiceover users. But I think there maybe 
some useful things in other apps. For instance, with the notes app, where you 
can immediately open a new note easily. Or the maps app, if you travel and use 
cabs, and need to go home. Those were two things in Jonathan's demo. And I'm 
sure third-party app developers will come up with things. Dropbox already 
supports it for instance.
Mary

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> On Sep 25, 2015, at 7:07 PM, Alan Lemly <wale...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> I'm having trouble conceptualizing how the 3D touch thing is supposed to work 
> even for the sighted world. When Tim Cook demonstrated it on Stephen colbert 
> the other night, the email app was the one he used. It sounded as if he was 
> looking at an abbreviated list of messages and by pressing down slightly on 
> the one of interest, he could peek at a summary of that message. If he was 
> interested in reading the whole thing, he could press down further to pop the 
> entire message open. 
> 
> I realize the concept will no doubt expend as users put their collective 
> brains to this technology but as far as the current email app goes, I'm not 
> getting how it would benefit VoiceOver users. I currently have my mail app 
> set up to read me five lines of each message so that gives me an audible peek 
> at each one. Double tapping on the message to pop it open in order to read 
> the whole thing really doesn't take a lot of additional time. 
> 
> As I said, I'm sure I'm missing a lot of how this new technology works and 
> hopefully VoiceOver users will be able to get some benefit from it. 
> 
> Alan Lemly 
> 
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>> On Sep 25, 2015, at 8:32 PM, Sieghard Weitzel <siegh...@live.ca> wrote:
>> 
>> From Jonathan’s podcast I think the idea is not necessarily to double tap 
>> and hold, but to just put focus on what it is you want, then put your finger 
>> on the screen and press down making sure you don’t move your finger in the 
>> process.
>>  
>>  
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>> Of John Diakogeorgiou
>> Sent: Friday, September 25, 2015 6:31 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: How do you use 3d touch with Voiceover?
>>  
>> I listened to it. I am starting to get it a bit. You double tap and hold for 
>> feedback then press either softly or hard. Sometimes it tries to move the 
>> icon.
>> 
>> John Diakogeorgiou
>> 
>> On Sep 25, 2015, at 9:17 PM, Sieghard Weitzel <siegh...@live.ca> wrote:
>> 
>> Jonathan does demonstrate it with an email, but I guess at this point nobody 
>> has more than 12 hours or so of experience and everybody is sort of in the 
>> same boat with respect to experimenting. I won’t get my 6S for another week 
>> or 2 and by then you guys probably have figured it all out.
>>  
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>> Of John Diakogeorgiou
>> Sent: Friday, September 25, 2015 6:11 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: How do you use 3d touch with Voiceover?
>>  
>> That doesn't work. Has anyone been Aavle to do it?
>> 
>> John Diakogeorgiou
>> 
>> On Sep 25, 2015, at 8:58 PM, Alex Hall <mehg...@icloud.com> wrote:
>> 
>> My understanding is you simply push down. Touch the email you want to peek 
>> at, then just push your finger against the screen until you feel a quick bit 
>> of feedback. You can then push harder to open it, if you want to.
>> On Sep 25, 2015, at 20:42, Jared <jared.stoff...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>  
>> How do you use 3d touch on an iphone 6s with Voiceover? Double tapping 
>> harder or softer in email does not appear to do it.
>>  
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