Hi Jonathan and all, Well put Jonathan. I bought this for the living room and if it only had optical it would go in the bedroom and the third gen would get prime living room as I bought this primarily for described video on Netflix so to say I am a little pissed at Netflix is an understatement. Could you imagine if Netflix had left close captioning out of the app the world would be livid but no mention anywhere in the mainstream about Netflix leaving described video out. overall I am not reading stellar reviews of this by the main stream and considering sighted people have tons of other options like Roku, Amazon Fire and others Apple really laid an egg so far with this. Seriously this 4th gen took them years to come up with? Seriously, it is shocking how much stuff they left out. At least I am getting to listen to the Mets radio feed for the World Series through the MLB app. So that is something. > On Nov 1, 2015, at 3:27 PM, Mary Otten <[email protected]> wrote: > > As Jonathan pointed out, Siri is not available everywhere. Furthermore, again > based on mainstream reviews, it is apparent that the universal Siri search is > not all that it's cracked up to be. sometimes it is a big fat bust. And in > such cases, you would want another way of telling the device what it was you > wanted. And if you paid a premium for this device, you would probably not > like it that you were having to hunt and peck around a great big long row of > letters to get that search job done. Apple charges more than everybody else. > And people expect to get Quality in return. That includes well-thought-out > design. Software, not just nice-looking hardware. You don't buy potential, > unless it's known to be an early edition, and you're getting a discount. But > that's not happening here. I am looking forward to see how this AppleTV > develops. I hope it does great, because they are the only one that is really > accessible. But not yet. I'm not giving them my money until they give me the > product I should get for my money. > > Mary > > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Nov 1, 2015, at 8:38 AM, Sieghard Weitzel <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> Hi Daniel, >> >> They should leave out Bluetooth keyboard support because they want people to >> use SIRI when it appears in some countries SIRI on the Apple TV is not >> available, example, New Zealand. I don't know about Australia and Europe, >> but if they have Bluetooth support and they support all sorts of third-party >> game controllers not having support for Bluetooth keyboards makes little >> sense to me. >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf >> Of Daniel Miller >> Sent: Sunday, November 1, 2015 8:36 AM >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: Re: Bluetooth keyboard and Apple fourth-generation TV >> >> Plus, they’re trying to push the universal search experience with Siri, so I >> can kind of understand why they didn’t add it, even though yes, it is rather >> annoying, I’m not saying it isn’t. But from Apple’s point of view, they want >> people to use the Siri functionality more. And also, they added a recent >> keyboard that contains all the email addresses and account names you’ve >> typed before, so to be fair, you’d only need to enter your passwords with >> the annoying keyboard. >> >>> On Nov 1, 2015, at 10:31 AM, Sieghard Weitzel <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> That would match Jonathan's experience when he tried to pair a Bluetooth >>> keyboard with his Apple TV foruth gen in his Jonathan at Large Podcast. It >>> really appears that Apple has not added Bluetooth keyboard support. Let's >>> all write to [email protected] and request they fix this, after all, >>> I don't see how the hardware would not support it, it should just be a >>> matter of a software update. >>> >>> >>> Regards, >>> Sieghard >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf >>> Of Larry Smith >>> Sent: Sunday, November 1, 2015 3:27 AM >>> To: [email protected] >>> Subject: Re: Bluetooth keyboard and Apple fourth-generation TV >>> >>> I have the new apple TV. I have tried three different bluetooth keyboards. >>> Neither keyboard would pair. As a matter of fact, the apple TV didn’t >>> appear to even recognize that I was trying to pair a device. >>>> On Oct 31, 2015, at 11:36 PM, Mary Otten <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>> For those of you who have the new AppleTV, has any of you tried connecting >>>> it with an apple or other Bluetooth keyboard and what have your results >>>> been? I saw an article in some tech blogger other today commenting on the >>>> fact that typing stuff on the screen is now much more difficult, because >>>> they don't have the grid that they used to have for use with the remote. >>>> It is apparently one long line of letters and one long line of numbers. >>>> And the author was complaining that this was very much a pain in the butt. >>>> They did not say anything about using a Bluetooth keyboard, making me >>>> think that that might not be an option. 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