I won't get into the POP versus IMAP debate or the IMAP versus Exchange
debate or the GMail versus Outlook debate, but be assured there's a
place in today's world for all of this so don't feel pressured to use
one protocol or service over another. Listen to the pros and cons of
each and then make your own decision.
On the statements below about the use of labels in Gmail, I've never
seen an email client where this doesn't look and behave exactly like it
would if you were just using folders on Gmail. Labels are just the
mechanism that Gmail uses to track information about your email, and it
does provide some efficiencies. For example, if you copy a message from
one folder to another, you don't actually have two copies of that
message on your email server. You still have just the one message with
two different labels associated with it. I'd actually be surprised if
Microsoft wasn't using the same design on their servers.
There's also no such thing as an All Mail label. When you look at the
all mail folder in your email client or the all mail view on the Gmail
web site, you're just looking at any message on your email server
regardless of what labels it has associated with it. This comes in handy
when you moved a message to a folder and can't remember what folder that
might have been. BTW, when you move a message into the trash folder,
it'll be removed from the server after 30 days, so it'll also stop
shewing up in your All Mail folder.
On 11/15/2015 11:11 AM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:
Hi Jennifer,
I know a few people still think POP has a place in today's modern era where
people often have their email accounts set up on multiple devices including
maybe a PC/Laptop/Mac, an iPhone and/or iPad and so on.
I personally switched to Hotmail/Outlook.com 6 years ago when I first started using smartphones and an iPod Touch because POP to me is a protocol for when people had one computer and that was it. Yes, I know you can set up a POP account to leave mail on the server and basically designate one device/computer as the master account where if you delete email it also is deleted from the server and so on, but the issue is that you are still working with a locally stored copy of all your email and it just does not sync between devices. Also, if I send an important message or reply to a message from my iPhone, then I want that message to show it's been replied to and I want the reply I sent in my Sent folder no matter whether I am doing mail on one of my 3 computers (2 at work and my laptop at home) or my iPhone. POP will not do this, if I reply from one computer than the sent message is on that computer and it won't be on the other devices. Then there is the issue of contacts. POP is for
email and contacts are out of the picture completely. In my opinion POP just
does not do the job any more no matter how you set it up or try to work around
its limitations.
I know you can still configure your gmail account to use POP, not sure if you
can even set up an Outlook.com account as a POP account and, of course, why
would you. Exchange active sync beautifully syncs your email and contacts and,
if you want, calendars and reminders, and while it has a few limitations for
the most part it's a pretty nice experience. All you do is set up your account
whether it's on the PC or your iOS device(s) and all your email and your
contacts are there.
I'm sure gmail when set up with IMAP works well and maybe if I had spend as
much time with it as I have with Outlook.com I'd like it better, but I just
prefer the ability to make folders and move messages into those over gmail's
way of applying labels to organize my email. I also don't like the approach of
the All Mail label or whatever it is called where messages still are kept even
if you delete them from your Inbox and, I think, also your Trash folder.
Regards,
Sieghard
-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of
Jenifer Barr
Sent: Sunday, November 15, 2015 8:35 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: showing more mail?
You're right Sieghard, I forgot to mention I'm using pop. I'm sorry.
Jenifer Barr
Sent from my iPhone
On Nov 15, 2015, at 11:11 AM, Sieghard Weitzel <[email protected]> wrote:
Hi Richard,
Jennifer didn't say if she has set up her gmail account as a POP account or if
she is using IMAP. I am really glad when I switched from my ISP's email service
to Hotmail 6 years ago that I ended up deciding on Hotmail which then became
Windows Live and now finally has evolved into Outlook.com. I do have a gmail
account which I never really use for anything except as an account to log into
Google services like Youtube, but I read about people having issues with gmail
so often and rarely hear anything about people having problems with their
Outlook.com/Exchange Active Sync setup.
Regards,
Sieghard
-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On
Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Sunday, November 15, 2015 7:51 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: showing more mail?
Is this the difference between iMap and Pop servers?
Like Sieghard, I use Outlook and the mail days to sync is there, but I also
have a Gmail account that does not have that option.
I have another Email pop account and it doesn't have that option either.
I came into this late, so I'm not sure the entire context.
Richard
-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On
Behalf Of Jenifer Barr
Sent: Sunday, November 15, 2015 7:32 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: showing more mail?
Yeah, I am using gMail. It's not in the advanced either. Oh well.
Thanks for trying. (smile)
Jenifer Barr
Sent from my iPhone
On Nov 15, 2015, at 10:24 AM, Sieghard Weitzel <[email protected]> wrote:
Is this for your gmail account? I am using Outlook.com and I believe it works differently
and therefore the options may not be the same. Do you have an "Advanced" button
once you double tap on your account, you might want to look there.
-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On
Behalf Of Jenifer Barr
Sent: Sunday, November 15, 2015 7:09 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: showing more mail?
Hi, Thanks Sieghard.
The only thing I see after the items to select to sync is delete account. I'm
using 9.1 with an iPhone 6S-plus.
Jenifer Barr
Sent from my iPhone
On Nov 15, 2015, at 9:38 AM, Sieghard Weitzel <[email protected]> wrote:
Go to Settings > Mail, Calendar, Contacts double tap on the mail
account you want to change, after you swipe past the items you can select or unselect to
sync (Mail, Contacts, Calendar, Reminders) you will find "Mail Days to Sync",
double tap on it.
Select either No limit, 1 day, 3 days, 1 week, 2 weeks or 1 months.
I have mine set to "No Limit" so that all messages are displayed.
The setting you mention doesn't exist any more, but this will dow hat you want.
Regards,
Sieghard
-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On
Behalf Of Jenifer Barr
Sent: Sunday, November 15, 2015 5:37 AM
To: viphone <[email protected]>
Subject: showing more mail?
Hi all.
I can't remember... where do I find the setting in mail to show more than 200?
I've looked in mail, advanced... not there.
Thanks for any help.
Jen
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