This isn't true. Talk Back has been built into Android since Android 4.0 (Ice Cream Sandwich).
On 23/08/12 06:33, Mike Maslo wrote: > Still have to use third party screen reading solution > > Talk to me whem there is built in > > Discussion closed > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Aug 23, 2012, at 12:09 AM, Christopher Chaltain <[email protected]> wrote: > >> True and understood. I'm not saying that iPhone accessibility isn't superior >> to Android's. I think it is, and that's why I'm an iPhone user and not an >> Android user. However, people have just been saying incorrect things about >> the Android phone and making generalizations without any facts to back their >> statements up. There's plenty of totally valid and factual reasons why an >> iPhone is the right choice for many people. there's no reason to spread >> dated and incorrect information about any other product. >> >> My reference to significant improvements had to do with the changes from >> Gingerbread to Ice Cream Sandwich to Jellybean, since many of the statements >> on the list had to do with the state of Talk Back in Gingerbread. I'm just >> saying that that information is dated and the improvements since then have >> been significant. I don't think accessibility in Gingerbread was almost >> non-existent, but that's a judgement call. >> >> I hear what you're saying about the set up process for a blind user on the >> Samsung Galaxy S3, but the day I brought my iPhone home, I spent 4 hours >> trying to get my Apple ID in the App Store. I eventually just gave up and >> tried again the next day. I know you said the podcast author was familiar >> with the iPhone, but picking up a new touch screen device is going to take >> some time to get used to. I'll also point out that the Samsung Galaxy S3 >> shipped with Ice Cream Sandwich and I know there were improvements in >> Jellybean in the area of typing. >> >> On 08/22/2012 11:50 PM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote: >>> Hi Christopher, >>> >>> It's not all that hard to improve something significantly which was almost >>> non-existent before. I am interested in technology of any kind and recently >>> listened to a very detailed 2-part german Podcast by somebody who is a very >>> experienced tech user about Talkback on a I think Samsung Galaxy S3 >>> top-of-line phone. This person also has an iPhone and he actually had to >>> stop the Podcast and restart it because the gesture which was supposed to >>> activate Talkback during setup did not work. He finally did get it going and >>> then continued to setup the phone and boy was it painful to listen to his >>> attempts to do the simplest things. At one point he had to enter his name on >>> a virtual keyboard and it literally took him 5 or 6 minutes in the Podcast >>> before he managed to enter his first and last name, as I said, it was simply >>> painful and I was sitting there thinking why somebody would put him or >>> herself through such frustration if you can get an iPhone, you triple click >>> the home key and that's it. When I got my iPhone 4S I set it up myself in >>> the store with Voiceover and the entire process took me about as long as >>> what it took him to enter his name. I am not exaggerating, but the entire >>> first part of the Podcast which was over an hour was about him getting past >>> the few start screens and that is not counting the time where he paused the >>> Podcast to even get Talkback to initialize. They may have come a ways, but >>> they have a very very long road ahead before they get even close to the >>> iPhone's accessibility and ease of use and as I said in my earlier message, >>> I don't think they will ever get there. >>> >>> >>> Regards, >>> Sieghard >>> >>> >> >> -- >> Christopher (CJ) >> chaltain at Gmail >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google >> Group. >> To search the VIPhone public archive, visit >> http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/. >> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> [email protected]. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. >> >> > -- Christopher (CJ) chaltain at Gmail -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
