Woe boys, I should be used to this sort of thing by now. it happens on both the android and IPhone lists. I'm just shocked at the astonishing ignorance and carelessness of people. Well, as an AT TRainer, I feel it's my job to bring light where such blindness exists. If you truly love your ignorance and want to hang onto it, there's a delete button somewhere around here. Otherwise...
Let me say that I teach and use both android and IOS devices on a regular basis. They have their points for good or ill. Personally, I much prefer android based on extensive use of all the devices, but that's just me. Regarding a commitment to accessibility, lets make some allowance for the fact that the IPhone itself had been around for two or three years at least before the release of the first android device. The IPhone 3GS with it's first incarnation of accessibility came out between 6 months and a year before the release of the htc dream which was the first ever... Ever... android device. Apple has had a lot longer to establish themselves regarding accessibility than android has. On the other hand, I've been using android for nearly 10 months now, and there have been two major accessibility upgrades in that time, both of which my device supports. Please explain to me how that demonstrates a lack of commitment to accessibility. The accessibility team at google runs it's own email list like this one and they monitor and contribute to the discussions on that list. I can see my suggestions implemented every 6 months, and if I have a bug, I get a direct public response. How does that bespeak a lacklustre attitude towards accessibility? Android is not IOS. It doesn't work like IOS and never will. That doesn't make it inaccessible, unusable, ineffective, or bad. Or were you all born with an innate knowledge of the apple touch screen and able to pick it right up and be off to the races without even an hour's practice. How can you seriously forget the time it took you to learn the interface. Worth it? Of course, but just because you're flying now, doesn't mean there was never a time when you stumbled and fumbled and thought you'd never get the damn thing. But you persevered, and now here you are. If you want to see lack of commitment, let's have a look at rim shall we? Don't get me started. Now, as far as apps go, There're a lot of highly uncharismatic people doing android accessibility podcasts. For an accurate picture of android accessibility and android apps, visit http://www.blindtechsupport.net and click on podcast, then android. There you will see demos of many android apps and functions in a polished presentation that you can stand to listen to. For myself, I'm still on gingerbread because I haven't gotten around to upgrading to cm10. Having said that, let's look at some of the smart phone functions and see if there are any that don't stack up. Phone, calendar, contacts, call history, text messaging, media player, email, application purchasing, web browsing... All functioning seamlessly Firefox and Knine have their qwerks, but they are full featured and usable. Now, let's run down some of the apps that I have on both devices that are perfectly usable. Let's see... Dropbox, tunein radio, redlaser, paypal mobile, next TTC... I'm not a huge app person, but looking around the stores, you can get navigon on both devices, you can get gogles, You can get accessible facebook and twitter apps... So tell me, Each store has about 300000 apps to do various things. How many have you tried? Have you tried 300, or less than 1 persent? Is that the basis for your comparison? Now, as far as it goes, I have 3 speech synthesizers installed on my phone. I can choose IVona, loquendo, svox, Espeak, and hopefully soon acapella and my screen reader will use them. If fleksy for android came out tomorrow, I could have it as a system wide keyboard option. Same for the braille keyboards that were so hot a few months ago. I can use my IBlue 737 gps receiver. It's completely ridiculous to throw out comments like lack of application support. foolish to circulate misinformation and noninformation like this, and it's incredible how many people are acting so threatened in their disparagement of one platform or the other. I see it in both groups. Do you guys really think it would be better for the accessibility marketplace if android, and even rim such as they are, just canned their accessibility efforts and left it all to apple? Best, Erik Burggraaf Introducing Ebony Consulting business card transcription service, starting at $0.45 per card or $35 per hundred cards. Ebony Consulting toll-free: 1-888-255-5194 or on the web at http://www.erik-burggraaf.com On 2012-08-23, at 10:18 AM, Pat wrote: > No as there les apps and less commitment to access. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google > Group. > To search the VIPhone public archive, visit > http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected]. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
