Yet again you have clarified something which had seemed endlessly obscure!! 
Thanks, Sieghard! Harry

> On 11 Feb 2016, at 15:36, Sieghard Weitzel <siegh...@live.ca> wrote:
> 
> You can download your music library and I assume Apple assumes you want 
> off-line access to your photos which is why they are downloaded. You could 
> always use Dropbox or OneDrive, you can set up both of hese services to 
> automatically upload your camera roll and here all the photos are strictly 
> kept in the cloud for iOS devices unless you specifically mark them to be 
> downloaded. If you use a PC (and I assume also a Mac) then the pictures will 
> be downloaded to a folder called "Camera Roll".
> In some ways Dropbox and maybe also OneDrive do this better than Apple does, 
> I think Apple has always had a bit of a fight with cloud storage although it 
> is better now than it used to be.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Harry Bell
> Sent: Thursday, February 11, 2016 7:24 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Cloud storage and iPhone storage
> 
> Thanks, Sieghard, that bit makes sense to me: iTunes Match music is simply 
> streamed from Apple's servers, so it doesn't hog any space on the iPhone 
> itself. So I'm still puzzled about why iCloud Photo Library can't do the same 
> instead of hogging chunks of storage on the phone?
> 
> Harry Bell
> 
>> On 11 Feb 2016, at 15:16, Sieghard Weitzel <siegh...@live.ca> wrote:
>> 
>> iTunes Match doesn't actually store your music in your iCloud storage, it 
>> "matches" the songs you have with music in the iTunes Store and gives you 
>> access to it, but essentially you are using Apple's version of the songs and 
>> not your own. Only songs it can't match are uploaded and I am not even sure 
>> if they count against your iCloud Storage limit, I think they don't.
>> 
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>> Of Harry Bell
>> Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2016 10:32 AM
>> To: Abridged Recipients <viphone@googlegroups.com>
>> Subject: Cloud storage and iPhone storage
>> 
>> I'm trying to help a friend who has an iPhone 6 16GB: she has a huge Photos 
>> library on her Mac and 99GB of music in iTunes. She has today increased her 
>> iCloud storage plan and on her Mac has turned on iCloud Photo Library and 
>> iTunes Match. But when I checked Apple support discussions online, it seems 
>> that, though Apple stores and streams the photos and music from their 
>> iCloud, the iCloud Photo Library hogs a big chunk of an iPhones internal 
>> storage (about 10% of the size of the original Mac library) whereas iTunes 
>> Match scarcely occupies any of the iPhone's internal space. Is this correct? 
>> If so, why do the two storage services have each such a different impact on 
>> an iPhones internal storage?
>> Thanks
>> 
>> Harry Bell
>> 
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