Hi Gordon,
I would like to add my voice to Anne's here! I think it was both she and I
who first championed the use of Prizmo, some years back, using the old 4
phone!! Certainly, at first it was a challenge, but we did get some results
which would, at the very least, give one a good over-view of what was on the
paper. When the KNFB app came out, or rather, when the hype leading up to its
coming out, was at its hottest and they said "we won't be charging a lot for
it", only to then announce that it would cost a wacking 100 Dollars, I decided
I would never buy it, seeing it as one more example of the "rip-off" of the
adaptive market. However, within a day or so of its appearing on the app store,
I read sufch glowing reports of the app that I swallowed my pride and bought
it. I have found it to be truly liberating! True, in those days I could see
enough to tell if the targeted sheet was roughly on the screen, which helped
emensely! but now, and for the last 2 years, I have had no sight at all, not
even light, which used to be so useful in gaging the right ambience for taking
shots, I am within 5 percent of my earlier success.
I take shots, on the fly, such as in restaurants, from a sitting position,
just raising one hand, not making any special effort, (not choosing to make too
much of an exhibition of myself) of menus and have splendid success! I always
am the one to check the post, before my other half, this used to drive him mad
when I was using Prizmo, because it took quite a while to get results, but now,
the the KNFB app, I am as quick as him putting on his reading glasses! Once the
envelope is opened, KNFB is faster than he is at reading it for me (and often
more accurate!!)
I do agree with Anne, it may well help some of us, who have seen before,
having an instinctive awareness of the requirements of the camera, but this
isn't true of everyone, people, here on this list, have achieved equal results,
having never seen!
Finally, for those who just have disappointing results, I wish I could give
them some one to one tips, but I think it might be necessary to be actually
present. Because, I reckon there are tricks a methods which one can follow and
which don't need judgement or too much spacial awareness.
Just my twopence worth.
Sandy.
sent from the dark side of the moon
> On 2 Jul 2016, at 08:20, Anne Robertson <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> Gordon, I have to disagree with you. For several years now, I have had very
> good results freehand first with Prizmo and now with KNFBReader and I’m
> totally blind. I think what makes the difference is whether we have good
> spacial awareness or not. I was able to see perfectly as a young child, and
> although I’ve seen nothing at all for around 55 years, my visual memory is
> good. This helps me understand how to use apps with the camera.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Anne
>
>
>
>> On 1 Jul 2016, at 22:02, Gordan Radić <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> Hi!
>> Whatever people are saying, I never believed in ferrytales. Blind people
>> acurately scanning text documents on the fly is just a ferrytale to me.
>> I managed to get some decent results with KNFB Reader and Textgrabber but
>> those were third or fourth shots in both apps. Giving hundreed bucks for
>> KNFB Reader just to get some partial results is too much for me;
>> fortunately, Textgrabber went free and now has in-app purchases for
>> translations.
>> Without a decent phone stand such as Fopydo or something else there's no
>> purpose in acquiring OCR apps and that's my humble opinion.
>>
>> S poštovanjem
>> Gordan Radić
>>
>> <nemoviz_animated.gif>
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>> 1.7.2016. u 20:43, Grant je napisao/la:
>>> Hi Joe, unfortunately, I couldn’t get Amedia to work reliably.
>>> Occasionally, when my phone’s camera was pointed at a printed page, one or
>>> two partial lines of text would be read aloud, generally in incomplete
>>> form. I sought sighted assistance to make sure that I was in fact aligning
>>> the camera and the document correctly and was told that the image was in
>>> fact being displayed on the screen. I also tried Amedia and KNFB Reader
>>> side by side with two documents, again with sighted assistance,and KNFB
>>> performed OCR correctly whereas Amedia only read a couple lines of garbled
>>> text. Like you, I have some trouble with KNFB Reader also, but in my case I
>>> know that’s because I have difficulty aligning the camera with the page
>>> perfectly. I don’t think there’s any question that you’ll get better
>>> results with KNFB Reader though. For live text recognition, Talking Goggles
>>> does a reasonable enough job so at least you’ll know what document you’re
>>> holding. It requires an internet connection to work, but there’s a free,
>>> ad-supported version.
>>>
>>> I accessed my receipt for Amedia Live Reader from the iTunes Store and
>>> reported that the app wasn’t functioning for me, but I wasn’t offered a
>>> refund.
>>>
>>> Hope this helps,
>>>
>>> Grant
>>>
>>>> On Friday July 1, 2016, at 8:12:38 AM, Joe <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hi, what have people's experience been with Amedia Live Reader? The
>>>> real-time reading function sounds intriguing, but the price tag gives one
>>>> pause. I don't mind the investment though if people can show it's an
>>>> effective app. I'm an idiot and cannot seem to make the KNFB Reader app
>>>> work
>>>> wel for me, and yeah, I fully admit this could just be user error. Thanks
>>>> for your thoughts in advance.
>>>>
>>>> Joe
>>>>
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