Hi!
I'll reply on this one but this is a joint reply to Sieghard, Anne
and Sandra.
I have some sight left, something between 2 and 5 percent, that's
what doctors are saying. I can see the picture on the screen,
distinguish icons, even recognize some apps by its icon. Can't read
the text below icons or messages etc but I can see clearly enough to
see the object I'm shooting in the field of view.
I tested KNFB Reader on my old 4S (thanks to a buddy who bought it)
and I was testing Textgrabber back then and now on my 6S Plus.
OK, I can understand why KNFB Reader didn't work for me well. It was
never meant to be used on 4S and it didn't support my language and
as a matter of fact, it still doesn't.
However, Textgrabber which actually supports my language gave me
more less the same results as the KNFB Reader at the time. Few days
ago I tried Textgrabber again on my 6S Plus and I got very badly
recognized text.
I'm not saying OCR like this is impossible for the blind, I'm just
saying even sighted folks can't keep their arms and hands steady
enough to shoot quality pictures for OCR. Getting a stand is a much
reliable solution and if I ever find hundreed bucks for KNFB I'll
certainly manage to find additional twenty for Fopydo. In fact, I'm
thinking of buying it these days since I have Textgrabber and Voice
apps. KNFB Reader is on my wish list but not before it begins to
support Croatian.
2.7.2016. u 11:49, 'Sandratomkins' via
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Hi Gordon,
I would like to add my voice to
Anne's here! I think it was both she and I who first championed
the use of Prizmo, some years back, using the old 4 phone!!
Certainly, at first it was a challenge, but we did get some
results which would, at the very least, give one a good
over-view of what was on the paper. When the KNFB app came out,
or rather, when the hype leading up to its coming out, was at
its hottest and they said "we won't be charging a lot for it",
only to then announce that it would cost a wacking 100 Dollars,
I decided I would never buy it, seeing it as one more example of
the "rip-off" of the adaptive market. However, within a day or
so of its appearing on the app store, I read sufch glowing
reports of the app that I swallowed my pride and bought it. I
have found it to be truly liberating! True, in those days I
could see enough to tell if the targeted sheet was roughly on
the screen, which helped emensely! but now, and for the last 2
years, I have had no sight at all, not even light, which used to
be so useful in gaging the right ambience for taking shots, I am
within 5 percent of my earlier success.
I take shots, on the fly, such as
in restaurants, from a sitting position, just raising one hand,
not making any special effort, (not choosing to make too much of
an exhibition of myself) of menus and have splendid success! I
always am the one to check the post, before my other half, this
used to drive him mad when I was using Prizmo, because it took
quite a while to get results, but now, the the KNFB app, I am as
quick as him putting on his reading glasses! Once the envelope
is opened, KNFB is faster than he is at reading it for me (and
often more accurate!!)
I do agree with Anne, it may well
help some of us, who have seen before, having an instinctive
awareness of the requirements of the camera, but this isn't true
of everyone, people, here on this list, have achieved equal
results, having never seen!
Finally, for those who just have
disappointing results, I wish I could give them some one to one
tips, but I think it might be necessary to be actually present.
Because, I reckon there are tricks a methods which one can
follow and which don't need judgement or too much spacial
awareness.
Just my twopence worth.
Sandy.
sent from the dark side of the moon
Gordon, I have to disagree with you. For several
years now, I have had very good results freehand first with
Prizmo and now with KNFBReader and I’m totally blind. I
think what makes the difference is whether we have good
spacial awareness or not. I was able to see perfectly as a
young child, and although I’ve seen nothing at all for
around 55 years, my visual memory is good. This helps me
understand how to use apps with the camera.
Hi!
Whatever people are saying, I never believed in
ferrytales. Blind people acurately scanning text
documents on the fly is just a ferrytale to me.
I managed to get some decent results with KNFB Reader
and Textgrabber but those were third or fourth shots
in both apps. Giving hundreed bucks for KNFB Reader
just to get some partial results is too much for me;
fortunately, Textgrabber went free and now has in-app
purchases for translations.
Without a decent phone stand such as Fopydo or
something else there's no purpose in acquiring OCR
apps and that's my humble opinion.
1.7.2016. u 20:43, Grant
je napisao/la:
Hi Joe, unfortunately, I couldn’t get Amedia to work
reliably. Occasionally, when my phone’s camera was
pointed at a printed page, one or two partial lines
of text would be read aloud, generally in incomplete
form. I sought sighted assistance to make sure that
I was in fact aligning the camera and the document
correctly and was told that the image was in fact
being displayed on the screen. I also tried Amedia
and KNFB Reader side by side with two documents,
again with sighted assistance,and KNFB performed OCR
correctly whereas Amedia only read a couple lines of
garbled text. Like you, I have some trouble with
KNFB Reader also, but in my case I know that’s
because I have difficulty aligning the camera with
the page perfectly. I don’t think there’s any
question that you’ll get better results with KNFB
Reader though. For live text recognition, Talking
Goggles does a reasonable enough job so at least
you’ll know what document you’re holding. It
requires an internet connection to work, but there’s
a free, ad-supported version.
I accessed my receipt for Amedia Live
Reader from the iTunes Store and reported that the
app wasn’t functioning for me, but I wasn’t
offered a refund.
Hi, what have people's
experience been with Amedia Live Reader?
The
real-time reading function sounds
intriguing, but the price tag gives one
pause. I don't mind the investment though
if people can show it's an
effective app. I'm an idiot and cannot
seem to make the KNFB Reader app work
wel for me, and yeah, I fully admit this
could just be user error. Thanks
for your thoughts in advance.
Joe
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