That may be, but does android have all of the same apps I use on my ipad
mini?
It’s my understanding that voice dream reader is a lot better on the
ipad than on a android device?
*From:* Kevin Chao <mailto:kevincha...@gmail.com>
*Sent:* Saturday, July 30, 2016 1:33 PM
*To:* viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
*Subject:* Re: Android tablet accessibility may be better than you think
[was "Re: Questions regarding the IPod"]
Current Android 7 and TalkBack 5 accessibility user experience matches
iOS 10 VoiceOVEr in most areas and exceeds in other areas.
I'll agree that earlier Android accessibility was sub-optimal and had a
lot to be desired, but I'd encourage screen reader users to try modern
Android TalkBack. You'll be pleasantly surprised, but to be fair it is
difficult to let go of legacy experiences one may have.
On Wed, Jul 27, 2016 at 9:15 PM Terri Stimmel
<icecreamlove...@outlook.com <mailto:icecreamlove...@outlook.com>> wrote:
Hello there Christopher,
Thank you for giving you giving me your dots and opinions on android
tablets and phones. I really appreciate it. That was very kind of you.
However, I am not at all interested in having an android cabinet. I
tried one a few months ago, and I really dislike it. Before that, I
had an earlier version of a tablet, and I really dislike that as
well. At one point, along time ago, I had an android phone, and I
never like that thing. I know some people love android products, and
that is there right, and their choice. But I am not one of them. I
know my iPhone, and other Apple products, can have their
limitations. But I can live with those limitations. But thank you
again for giving me your thoughts on this matter. I do appreciate it.
Terri
Sent from my iPhone
> On Jul 27, 2016, at 10:40 PM, Christopher Chaltain
<chalt...@gmail.com <mailto:chalt...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> There's a lot of good reasons not to get an Android tablet, one of
which is that you may not want to learn another interface and screen
reader, but it's getting hard to say that Android tablets aren't
very accessible. Jonathan Mosen has a good article talking about his
experience with an Android phone, and based on that article, and
some other reasons, I got a Samsung S7 Active to go along with my
Nexus 7 tablet. The iPhone definitely has it's strengths, but
depending on what you do with the phone, an Android phone or tablet
is quite accessible.
>
>> On 27/07/16 15:24, Terri Stimmel wrote:
>> Hello everybody,
>>
>> Well, I will not be getting an iPod after all.
>> I called AT&T, to see when I could upgrade my phone. I want more
memory on my phone. I was told I could upgrade in February. I don't
know if I will upgrade now. But I might. Anyway, when I was talking
to the lady, she told me that they were running a great promotion on
tablets. I told her then I would blind, and that I did not want an
android tablet because I didn't feel they were very accessible.
>> So she looked to see what she could offer me. She said she could
offer me an iPad mini, but it was the second generation. I don't
know much about iPads, so I asked her what the latest generation
was. She told me the latest generation wasn't for. So I told her
that's what I wanted. I know I will be paying on it for a while, but
the payments were small. So I decided to go with the 64 gig model. I
thought that would give me plenty of space to do whatever I wanted
to do. I got it in silver.
>>
>> It should arrive in about five days. I'm very excited about this!
No I don't feel so over whelmed, when it comes to making a decision
as to what kind of device to get, or not to get.
>>
>> In a little while, I will write a post and ask about iPads. Like
I said, I don't know much about them. So I need to learn some things.
>>
>> Thank you all for all of the help and support. I really appreciate it
>>
>> Thank you, and have a great day!
>>
>> Terri
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>>> On Jul 27, 2016, at 2:33 PM, Carol Forrester
<carol.l.forres...@me.com <mailto:carol.l.forres...@me.com>> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>>> On 27 Jul 2016, at 19:52, Chris Chaffin
<chaffin102...@gmail.com <mailto:chaffin102...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hello Terri,
>>>> Other places other than Apple offer refurbished iPods. I got
both of my kids refurbished 5th generation iPods a couple of years
ago from Walmart. I have also seen used or refurbished iPods at
places like Best Buy and Amazon. Just go to their site and do a
search for Refurbished iPod and see what comes up.
>>>>
>>>> For audio books and movies, I would also recommend dropbox to
help free up some space on your phone. Dropbox is a great storage
solution when you do not have a lot of space on your phone.
>>>>
>>>> Hope this helps.
>>>>
>>>> Chris
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> On Jul 27, 2016, at 1:11 PM, Terri Stimmel
<icecreamlove...@outlook.com <mailto:icecreamlove...@outlook.com>>
wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi there,Sieghard
>>>>>
>>>>> Thank you for letting me know this. I was wondering if she had
given me incorrect information. So I did more research into it. It
wasn't easy to find, honestly. But I did discover he was incorrect.
>>>>> I am at a loss as to what to do. I really don't want to
devices. I mean, that does seem kind of silly. I know why people do
it, and I know why I want to do it. But I don't really have the
money to put in to buying a brand-new iPod, and they do have
refurbished one. That was supposed to be, they do not have
refurbished ones. I just want to be able to enjoy my shows and
stuff, without having a lot of distractions. But then when I worry
I'm not getting my texts or things of that nature, I get concerned
and I am missing important things. Sometimes I am, and sometimes I'm
not. I wish I had purchased an iPhone with more memory. But I can't
upgrade for a while now. Mine only has 16 gigs, but it looks more
like I only have about 11 gigs every level. I think the last time I
looked I had a little over five gigs of space. So that is hard to
work with. I would like to put audiobooks, and some music, and some
other stuff on my phone. But I haven't used iTunes in a long time,
and I am not fond of it. When I did use it, I hated it! But I know I
am not the only one that feels this way. So maybe I will use dropbox
after all, at least as much as I can. Well I appreciate you and the
list listening to me ramble. I just needed to get this stuff said. I
guess I will stick with just my iPhone for now. Maybe I could take
some applications off of it that I really don't use, and that might
give me more space. I don't know.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thank you so much!
>>>>>
>>>>> Terri
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Jul 27, 2016, at 11:25 AM, Sieghard Weitzel
<siegh...@live.ca <mailto:siegh...@live.ca>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi Terri,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> She gave you wrong information, they said in the keynote when
iOS 10 was introduced that the only iPod that can run iOS 10 is the
iPod sixth generation.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com
<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com
<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>] On Behalf Of Terri Stimmel
>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2016 8:38 AM
>>>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
>>>>>> Subject: Re: Questions regarding the IPod
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hello everybody,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Someone suggested that I look on the Apple website, to see if
I could find a refurbished model. For either the fifth generation,
or the sixth generation. So I did this. When I couldn't find
anything, I decided to call Apple. I spoke with a very nice lady who
told me that they had not had any refurbished models for at least a
couple of months now.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I asked her if you knew whether or not the fifth generation
would support iOS 10. She said that it would.
>>>>>> So now I am rather confused why summer you feel that it
won't. Where have you read this, or heard this? Why would that lady
be wrong?
>>>>>> I'm not saying she is or isn't, it's just something I'm
curious about. I want to learn more about this, so I understand
this. Thank you so much!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Terri
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Jul 26, 2016, at 8:56 AM, Wayne Merritt
<wcmerr...@gmail.com <mailto:wcmerr...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> There's also the chance that when the new devices come out
this fal,
>>>>>>> the iPod 6th gen may drop in price. I don't know if Apple
will update
>>>>>>> the iPod line, just throwing something out. While having the
latest
>>>>>>> and greatest may not be important for you, realize that as
time goes
>>>>>>> by, certain new features may not be available. I would also
advise
>>>>>>> waiting a few months to see what happens with new hardware
and price
>>>>>>> ddrops, but if you really don't mind having older equipment,
then go
>>>>>>> for it. Yes you should be able to update your apps, but
again, if they
>>>>>>> add features which your hardeware does not support, then you
will not
>>>>>>> be able to use those features. Also, from time to time apps drop
>>>>>>> support for older hardware in order to stay current. I don't
know if
>>>>>>> this will happen with the iPod 5th gen, but it is possible.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Good luck,
>>>>>>> Wayne
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 7/25/16, Chris Chaffin <chaffin102...@gmail.com
<mailto:chaffin102...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> It is hard to say, but I have had some apps come out with
updates
>>>>>>>> that I could not get since I was not running the most
recent version of ios.
>>>>>>>> So after ios 10 comes out, the apps you are using might
still support
>>>>>>>> ios 9 at first, but after a while they will probably drop
that support.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> You could always run the version you had currently on your
iPod, but
>>>>>>>> there is no guarantee that you will always be able to
update to the
>>>>>>>> most recent version of the app, especially since the iPod 5
will not
>>>>>>>> be supported by ios 10.
>>>>>>>> So if having the most recent version of the app is
important to you,
>>>>>>>> then you should maybe wait, continue to save until you
could get an iPod 6.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Chris
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Jul 25, 2016, at 1:02 PM, Terri Stimmel
>>>>>>>>> <icecreamlove...@outlook.com
<mailto:icecreamlove...@outlook.com>>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hello everyone who has contacted me, regarding my iPod
touch questions.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I really appreciate it. I know I should probably buy the
latest
>>>>>>>>> iPod. But the money just isn't there right now. Plus I
don't need it
>>>>>>>>> to do everything.
>>>>>>>>> I also realize that I could put stuff on my phone, and
listen to it
>>>>>>>>> that way. But I honestly don't have a lot of space left on
my phone.
>>>>>>>>> It is a 16 gig model and I think it have about five gigs
of space
>>>>>>>>> left. I know I could put it on disturb also.
>>>>>>>>> However, I don't really want to do that, because I get some
>>>>>>>>> important texts and calls during the day. So I wouldn't
want to miss
>>>>>>>>> those, because the Phone was on do not disturb. So this is
why I
>>>>>>>>> have decided to go with this generation iPod.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Long as I am able to do what I want with it, and that is
fine with
>>>>>>>>> me. Now here is my question. If my application such as,
Spotify,
>>>>>>>>> tuna in, 50 radio Pro, and maybe a couple others I can't
think of at
>>>>>>>>> the moment, I have updates, when I likely still be able to
get these
>>>>>>>>> updates? That is my biggest concern! I would really
appreciated if
>>>>>>>>> anyone could answer that for me. I don't mind if I cannot
upgrade
>>>>>>>>> past nine. I don't see why that would matter to me, unless
it got to
>>>>>>>>> a point where I could not do my update for my application.
Then that
>>>>>>>>> would definitely be a problem. Thank you for all the help
so far. It
>>>>>>>>> really does mean a lot to me. Sorry this message is a
little sloppy.
>>>>>>>>> I am using dictation. I have never learned how to correct
my mistakes, when using dictation.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Have a great day!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> TerriSent from my iPhone
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 25, 2016, at 11:17 AM, Sieghard Weitzel
<siegh...@live.ca <mailto:siegh...@live.ca>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Hi Terri,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> As Christopher already said, the only iPod that can run
iOS 10 will
>>>>>>>>>> be the sixth generation, the fifth generation stops at iOS 9.
>>>>>>>>>> Probably not a big concern for now if all you want to do
is run
>>>>>>>>>> Spotify, listen to Audio books and so on.
>>>>>>>>>> Personally I think it's a waste of money, if you don't want
>>>>>>>>>> notifications while you listen to a book or music just
bring up
>>>>>>>>>> SIRI and say "Turn on Do Not Disturb".
>>>>>>>>>> As far as getting stuff onto the iPod Touch it is
identical to an iPhone.
>>>>>>>>>> Yes, you can use Dropbox or any number of other cloud
services to
>>>>>>>>>> access stuff inside their apps, but if you want the music
app then
>>>>>>>>>> iTunes is the only way and if you avoid iTunes with your
iPhone
>>>>>>>>>> then you will also avoid it with the iPod Touch.
>>>>>>>>>> I started out with an iPod Touch in 2009 and then got the
iPhone 4
>>>>>>>>>> in 2010. A month or two after I got the iPhone I sold my
iPod Touch
>>>>>>>>>> because it was just sitting in the drawer. The same
happened when I bought my 6S.
>>>>>>>>>> I kept my 5S at the time and thought maybe I use it at
home for
>>>>>>>>>> Audible and stuff like that, but I just never did because
I prefer
>>>>>>>>>> to use one device instead of two which essentially do the
same thing.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>>>> Sieghard
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com
<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com
<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>] On
>>>>>>>>>> Behalf Of christopher hallsworth
>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Sunday, July 24, 2016 9:37 AM
>>>>>>>>>> To: Viphone <viphone@googlegroups.com
<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>>
>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Questions regarding the IPod
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Correct. iPhone 5 and later, iPad 4, iPad Mini 2 and
later, iPad
>>>>>>>>>> Pro both
>>>>>>>>>> 12 and 9.7-inch and iPod Touch 6th Generation will all
run iOS 10.
>>>>>>>>>>> On 24 Jul 2016, at 16:01, Russ Kiehne
<russ94...@gmail.com <mailto:russ94...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> It's my understanding some of the older devices will be
able to
>>>>>>>>>>> run Ios 10.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message----- From: Jeremy
>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, July 23, 2016 7:34 PM
>>>>>>>>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: RE: Questions regarding the IPod
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Terry,
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> according to Amazon.com the new 32 gig iPod Touch 6th gen is
>>>>>>>>>>> selling for $242. There are used models listing for as
little as $174.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Using some sort of cloud backup such as Dropbox to
transfer files
>>>>>>>>>>> in and out of your iPod will be very slow as you will
have to
>>>>>>>>>>> upload the large files to Dropbox then download them
into your
>>>>>>>>>>> iPod Touch. Learning to use iTunes will make this
process much,
>>>>>>>>>>> much faster--when iTunes becomes more user friendly.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> You should really, really try to get the newer 6th
generation
>>>>>>>>>>> because if you buy the older 5th gen it will be of
little use to
>>>>>>>>>>> you going forward since it will no longer be upgradeable
to newer
>>>>>>>>>>> versions of iOS--you'll be stuck with iOS 9 the
remainder of the
>>>>>>>>>>> time you own this device--you will regret it.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Here's the Amazon.com link:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Amazon.com: Apple iPod touch 32GB Blue (6th Generation):
>>>>>>>>>>> Electronics - https://is.gd/XjWxoW
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> JR
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com
<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com
<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>]
>>>>>>>>>>> On Behalf Of Terri Stimmel
>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, July 23, 2016 6:00 PM
>>>>>>>>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Questions regarding the IPod
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Hello Richard,
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Thank you so much for your advice. I really appreciate
it. I would
>>>>>>>>>>> wait and save up money to get the six generation model,
but it is
>>>>>>>>>>> hard for me to save up money. So that is why I am taking
what I
>>>>>>>>>>> can get. Maybe there is not the greatest idea. But I
know if I
>>>>>>>>>>> wait for a while, the prices for the sixth generation will
>>>>>>>>>>> hopefully go down. So by then, maybe I will be able to
afford one.
>>>>>>>>>>> But for now, I don't really want to wait on that.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> In all honestly, I don't put anything on my iPhone right
now. It's
>>>>>>>>>>> only a 16 gig model, so it cannot hold much. I do read
some stuff
>>>>>>>>>>> through to noon, and I listen to stuff through Spotify.
That was
>>>>>>>>>>> supposed to be tuning in. Also, I do have voice reader
on my phone, as well as dropbox.
>>>>>>>>>>> But I use dropbox more. I do plan to put all these
programs on my
>>>>>>>>>>> iPod, once I get it.
>>>>>>>>>>> But the books, and the movies I would be putting onto
the iPod,
>>>>>>>>>>> are currently on my hard drive. So maybe I could put
them into
>>>>>>>>>>> dropbox and look at them that way on the iPhone? I don't
know. I
>>>>>>>>>>> would do anything not to have to use iTunes. Right now
for my
>>>>>>>>>>> phone I have it sync on Wi-Fi. Maybe that is not the
best idea?
>>>>>>>>>>> But I will admit, I do not know how to take things off
my phone,
>>>>>>>>>>> or really put them on there. I've never done it. Thank
you again
>>>>>>>>>>> for your help. If you have any more advice, or
suggestions, I would really appreciate that.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Have a good night!
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Terri
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 23, 2016, at 4:11 PM, Richard Turner
>>>>>>>>>>>> <richardturne...@outlook.com
<mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> You get things on and off the iPod the same way you do
with the
>>>>>>>>>>>> iPhone.
>>>>>>>>>>>> You can choose in iTunes to not have anything
automatically sync
>>>>>>>>>>>> to the iPod.
>>>>>>>>>>>> iTunes will show that you have two devices and you can
select the
>>>>>>>>>>>> one you have plugged in and only put certain things on it.
>>>>>>>>>>>> You do not have to enable mail on the touch.
>>>>>>>>>>>> I would strongly recommend, however, that you consider
saving up
>>>>>>>>>>>> for the iPod Touch 6th generation.
>>>>>>>>>>>> I don't know how much longer Apple will support the 5th
>>>>>>>>>>>> generation and as one who has owned both, the 6 is
worth it.
>>>>>>>>>>>> For your mp3 books, are you using Voice Dream Reader or
just
>>>>>>>>>>>> treating them as books through iTunes?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Audio described movies will show up in the video app if
you are
>>>>>>>>>>>> transferring them with iTunes. Or, are these just mp3
files from
>>>>>>>>>>>> Blind Mice or somewhere? If just mp3 files, again,
Voice Dream
>>>>>>>>>>>> Reader would handle them fine and you can get them on
your device
>>>>>>>>>>>> through DropBox rather than going through the pains of
iTunes.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I too have an iPhone and an iPod for similar reasons.
I wanted
>>>>>>>>>>>> to have a device dedicated to listening to music and
reading
>>>>>>>>>>>> books. I find I do other things with it, but those are
the main two things.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Enjoy,
>>>>>>>>>>>> Richard
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>>>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com
<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com
<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>]
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Behalf Of Terri Stimmel
>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, July 23, 2016 1:25 PM
>>>>>>>>>>>> To: Viphone <viphone@googlegroups.com
<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Questions regarding the IPod
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Hello everybody,
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I am considering purchasing an IPod Touch, 5th
generation. I do
>>>>>>>>>>>> not want the latest one, because I feel I just can't
afford it.
>>>>>>>>>>>> But also, I don't think I need all those features.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> So here are some questions I have.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Do I have to activate male on the IPod. I receive my
mail on my
>>>>>>>>>>>> phone, and I really do not want it in both places.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Also, I have a lot of audio described movies, is there
a way to
>>>>>>>>>>>> add these to the IPod?
>>>>>>>>>>>> If so, how would I do this? Would they go in to a
certain folder?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Also, I have a lot of audiobooks in MP3 format.
>>>>>>>>>>>> Would they have to go in to a certain folder as well?
>>>>>>>>>>>> I guess my main question is, can any MP3 file be put on
the IPod?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Once I add something, is it easy to remove?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Also, how do I keep photos off the IPod?
>>>>>>>>>>>> Again, I want these to stay on my phone.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> My reason for wanting to purchase an IPod, is so I can
listen to
>>>>>>>>>>>> stuff without interruptions.. For instance, I have a
Spotify
>>>>>>>>>>>> account. I want to put the app on my IPod, and listen
to the
>>>>>>>>>>>> music from my Bluetooth speaker.
>>>>>>>>>>>> Right now, when I listen with my phone, even though I
mute the
>>>>>>>>>>>> phone, some notices still come through. Even with the
screen
>>>>>>>>>>>> locked. So I am tired of this, and do not want it anymore.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Any help with all this will be much appreciated. I may
have more
>>>>>>>>>>>> questions to come. Especially when it comes to ITunes.
I really
>>>>>>>>>>>> dislike that program.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Thank you,
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Terri
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
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