Second cousin tried to install it ignoring wire, it did not work and it has been three weeks. I just want my old one back, or something I can control, turn on, off, change temperature, and hear what the temperature is inside. Not too much to ask. Asked about apps only because one cousin says it is the only thing I can do, getting feedback so I can say her idea is not particularly viable or that it needs to be a specific brand ... I don't need to control it when I am not here, I am always here, or gone only for an hour or so.
It is what it is, and I really want my talking one back, it did what I require, told me the temperature, was programmable, used when I worked, especially in winter when I did not wish to heat the house much when I was working. Since I seem to have horrible internet coverage here now, I'd prefer my talking one to a remotely controlled one anyway. Living in a well populated area, getting horrible landline, internet and cell service despite hours talking with technicians, having one arrive at my house and still no good solutions. Verizon disabled my advanced settings, provided an extender, only difference I note is that I don't have to yell hello multiple times before someone can hear me, otherwise still super slow internet speeds, answer landline and lose a download, reset modem/router six times in a week instead of once in two years. Needed to move, no choices there, love the house, hate to phone services I am currently getting. Cell tower less than half a mile from house, can be seen through trees out one window, so why doesn't it work! I hate giving up my e-mail address, one I have had for about 7 years, but may need to consider switching to Cox which seems to be the most used provider in the community here. Three weeks house on phones of both types, having technician come to the house and tell me all was well, when obviously it is not and was not is getting annoying. Sighted person who visit have no clue, think computer and phone will eat them alive, have no clue how to even go to the internet unless I open it, then turn off the screen-reader, then complain because I have a trackball instead of a mouse, my late husband's preference. Need a partially sighted or sighted person to be a friend who actually understands screen readers. Not happening in this lifetime I suspect. Rose Combs [email protected] -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Friday, August 05, 2016 11:00 AM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: Thermostat confusion. The extra wire maybe a 24 Volt line which you would need for Wi-Fi connected thermostats like the Nest and Radio Thermostat. When I put in my thermostat from RadioThermostat.com we actually had to run a new cable with 4 wires so I could use that thermostat. If your talking thermostat doesn't require that wire you can just ignore it. If you don't have sighted help who knows how to do this you may just have to ask an installer to come by and hook it up for you, they'll know what to do. Regards, Sieghard -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Rose Combs Sent: Friday, August 05, 2016 10:16 AM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: Thermostat confusion. No, inquiring about any thermostat that may be set with an app, only if I cannot get my talking one from other house to work on this system, seems my new house has an extra wire, so my talking one does not currently work and is in a drawer waiting for a solution. It was a thought a cousin brought up as the "best solution" to use my phone. Since I seem to have poor phone service here, landline and cell I hope I don't need to do this. Clear as mud? Rose Combs [email protected] -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Chip Orange Sent: Thursday, August 04, 2016 2:19 PM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: Thermostat confusion. I'm not sure, are you asking about Nest thermostats? If so, they definitely require sighted help to setup all of these advanced features and schedules; and since you're often learning as you go, you really need sighted help living there or near-by, not just the installer. Once a Nest is all setup, a blind person can adjust the temperature, but that's it. I was offering information only for those with sighted live-in or close help. Chip -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Rose Combs Sent: Thursday, August 04, 2016 4:49 PM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: Thermostat confusion. So, do they all, and I do mean all, work on the latest iPhone app! Can I do it living alone. I suspect the answer to that question is absolutely no, which means that unless I have absolutely no choice I don't want to go there. If it only halfway works, I might as well go back to the old guessing game I played before the talking thermostat even if I once set it at 60 in the middle of the night because I was having hot flashes! Late husband woke up saying it was winter again, LOL and I suggested he might want to check the thermostat because I just pushed on the down button and held it. He bought the talking thermostat after that, hours after that in fact. Ladies of a certain age will understand the hot flashes syndrome. Rose Combs [email protected] -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Chip Orange Sent: Thursday, August 04, 2016 12:40 PM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: Thermostat confusion. In addition to this good answer for standard thermostat functions, advanced thermostats such as the Nest will allow you to program schedules for changing the temperature based on both time of day and whether you are home or not (the Nest can tell if you are at home with a built-in motion sensor, and with an app you put on your phone, along with your home location, so the app indicates if you are at home or not using location services). Also, the Nest can manage the humidity level in your house using the airconditioning, or a multi-speed air handler, or even a separate device integrated to the airconditioning called a dehumidifier. It can use any or all of these methods, and each has its own advantages, and the last two have increased costs. In humid climates like Florida, this can make your house feel much more comfortable without making it feel too cold. In very dry climates, the Nest can also manage a separate device integrated into the HVAC called a humidifier. It's all of these advanced features which caused us to purchase two Nest thermostats, even though they are not very accessible for me. Hth, Chip -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Sunday, July 31, 2016 6:14 PM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: Thermostat confusion. Hi Ari, You may also want to consider the Wi-Fi thermostat from www.RadioThermostat.com. They are less expensive than the Nest ones and also work very well. As for what a thermostat does, it maintains whatever temperature you set it to and if you have air conditioning this also means starting your air conditioner when it gets too hot. Let's say you live in a place that gets pretty hot in the summer and you have air conditioning, but it also may get cold in the winter requiring you to heat. If you set your thermostat to 70 Fahrenheit and it is super hot in the summer, the thermostat will cause your air conditioner to kick in if it gets a degree or two above 670 degrees, once the temperature in the house is back down to around 69 or 70 it will turn off. The same happens with your furnace in the winter. If you set it to 70 degrees and it's only 40 outside, the thermostat maintains the 70 degrees by causing the furnace to start up if it gets too cold. 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