Hi all.
I've noticed with braille... when reading an email message... it freezes when 
going to the next line, and also puts the person who sent its name in front of 
each line. Anyone else notice this?


Jenifer Barr
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> On Sep 14, 2016, at 10:00 PM, Richard Turner <richardturne...@outlook.com> 
> wrote:
> 
> 
> Ari,
> Are you on a Phone?
> If so, make sure the rotor is on "Messages."
> Then flick up or down with one finger and you should hear message 1 of 3, or 
> whatever.
> Once you are on the message you want to read, flick up with two fingers.
> 
> That has been working for me.
> At, least I think that is what I've been doing.
> Richard
> 
> 
> (Sent from my iPhone 5S)
> 
> On Sep 14, 2016, at 6:54 PM, Mary Otten <motte...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> Did you have the thread expanded? Also, I just recently noticed a Focus lag 
>> or something. Maybe it's a screen refresh lag rather than focus lag. The 
>> same thing happened in a message. I was in a message, and my two finger 
>> flick up started reading a whole different message. But then when I went 
>> back to try to repeat the problem, it worked right on the same message. It's 
>> like the screen hadn't refreshed right the first time or something.
>> Mary
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> On Sep 14, 2016, at 6:36 PM, englishride...@gmail.com wrote:
>> 
>>> Richard, I'm not getting the behavior you describe. I just tried this in 
>>> this message. I was on your message, and when I did a two-finger flick up, 
>>> VO started reading Mary's message. Weird. I'm getting along with mail 
>>> better than I was, which is a relief. I'm glad to see that the focus is 
>>> jumped to the most recent unread message in a thread, so you don't have to 
>>> go hunting for your place. I'm also liking the feature where you can put 
>>> the oldest message in a thread at the top. This is behavior I'm used to 
>>> from Gmail, and it feels a lot more natural to flick down to go to the next 
>>> message in a thread rather than flicking up.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> Ari
>>> 
>>> On Sep 14, 2016, at 6:19 PM, Richard Turner <richardturne...@outlook.com> 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> When I flick down to a message and VO reads say the first couple lines, I 
>>>> use the two finger flick up and it reads the body of the message. Then, I 
>>>> touch with two fingers to pause it if I get interrupted, then touch with 
>>>> two fingers again and reading continues, just like always.
>>>> Now, if you have an iPad, apparently the reading is not so easy as Mary 
>>>> has mentioned.
>>>> But if you start reading with the two finger flick down, the two finger 
>>>> touch pauses like always.
>>>> HTH,
>>>> Richard
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> (Sent from my iPhone 5S)
>>>> 
>>>> On Sep 14, 2016, at 4:31 PM, Mary Otten <motte...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>>  I agree with you about the focusing need a little jumpy here. I'm not 
>>>>> sure what you mean by what happens if a message is more than a paragraph? 
>>>>> It reads straight through. At least here. The only time I have issues 
>>>>> with headers being read is on the iPad, which I have talked about under a 
>>>>> different thread. One focus difference I have noticed, and this is 
>>>>> consistent, if you have a message open and you hit delete, the next 
>>>>> message opens and after you hear the subject line, if you decide you want 
>>>>> to delete it, focus is no longer on the delete button. You have to find 
>>>>> it again and double tap it. That's a little bit annoying, especially on 
>>>>> the iPad where, at least for me, the delete button is harder to find. 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Sep 14, 2016, at 2:54 PM, englishride...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> This new messages thing in the rotor is going to take some time to get 
>>>>>> used to. What happens if there's multiple paragraphs in a message? Also, 
>>>>>> VO focus seems to be quite jumpy in mail. Maybe I'm doing something 
>>>>>> wrong? Does anyone know if there's a way to skip the header information 
>>>>>> in a message and go straight to the message text? I know the messages 
>>>>>> rotor item makes VO start reading the message text from the beginning, 
>>>>>> at least that's how it's been so far, but if I get interrupted while 
>>>>>> reading, then lose my place, I want a way to get back to it quickly, and 
>>>>>> not have to start reading from the beginning. Lol maybe I'm just being 
>>>>>> cranky and not giving the new mail view enough of a chance, but it's 
>>>>>> such a departure from the way it was previously. Also, I had the shock 
>>>>>> of my life when all my folders showed up on the screen. I figured out 
>>>>>> that I have to collaps mailboxes now.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>> Ari
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