I actually was one of the people who speculated that the 3.5mm headphone jack 
removal may make it easier to achieve better water resistancy. At least in the 
keynote Apple certainly did not hint at this, they just think it's time to move 
on and take audio to the next level and in the long run it is obvious that for 
Apple this next level is wireless.
I am sure, however, that while it maybe possible to waterproof a 3.5mm 
headphone jack it is easier to achieve the same water resistancy with out 
another place where water can get in.
Anyhow, enough said on this topic, from what I heard so far the removal of the 
headphone jack has not been hurting preorders and early sales and I highly 
doubt Apple will bring it back.


Regards,
Sieghard

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Mary Otten
Sent: Friday, September 16, 2016 2:59 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: iFixit teardown reveals exactly what replaced the iPhone 7’s 
headphone jack

The context in which this whole discussion came up had to do with the much 
discussed removal of the Jack by Apple, and one of the reasons given for it 
having been the improvement in waterproof rating. It was pointed out that 
Samsung achieved an even better rating and still has the Jack. Again, I do not 
want to reopen that deal. Just pointing out why it was discussed in the first 
place.
Mary

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On Sep 16, 2016, at 2:52 PM, Sieghard Weitzel 
<siegh...@live.ca<mailto:siegh...@live.ca>> wrote:
Well, koodos to Samsung if they achieved this. The first number (the 6) refers 
to particles/dust and 6 is the highest with any device that has it being 
absolutely dust proof. This means I don't have to worry having my iPhone on my 
work bench in the woodworking shop and sanding right next to it, just have to 
wipe it off or, if I had an iPhone 7 which I don't, I could just hold it under 
the tap for a few seconds *smile*.

The second number refers to liquids and 8 is obviously higher than 7, but here 
is a definition and I would still need to look up what Samsungs said their 
phone can withstand:

IPX-7: Protected against water immersion - Immersion for 30 minutes at a depth 
of 1 meter.
IPX-8: Protected against water submersion - The equipment is suitable for 
continual submersion in water under conditions which are identified by the 
manufacturer.

This would be like the Apple Watch which Apple said has been tested in a 
simulator for days on end and also to withstand pressure at depth of up to 50 
metres.
Those of us who scuba dive know that 50 metres is darn deep (you never go there 
in recreational diving even with an advanced open water certification, and the 
pressure at that depth is considerable.
But since it means it is up to the manufacturer's test it could simply mean 
they left the Samsung under 1 meter of water for 45 minutes instead of 30 
minutes or whatever. I think in real life the difference might be academic 
since typically you wouldn't have your phone on you when you swim for an hour 
or stuff like that and for accidental submersion the IPX-7 rating is very good 
also.

Sieghard

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Mary Otten
Sent: Friday, September 16, 2016 2:34 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: iFixit teardown reveals exactly what replaced the iPhone 7’s 
headphone jack

Hi Sieghard,
I did not research this for myself, but was told on another list where this 
topic came up for discussion that the Samsung S7 galaxy has the waterproof 
rating of 68, as opposed to the 67 that the new iPhones have.
Mary

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On Sep 16, 2016, at 2:31 PM, Sieghard Weitzel 
<siegh...@live.ca<mailto:siegh...@live.ca>> wrote:
Hi Mary,

What IPX rating does the Samsung phone have or is it waterproof by virtue of it 
bursting into flames so that any water may get burned off *smile*.
Short of making the iPhone 7/7 Plus swim proof and giving it the same rating as 
the Apple Watch, IPX7 is as far as I can tell from Googling these standards the 
best there is, the test requires a device with IPX7 rating to survive being 
submersed in 3 feet of water for half an hour.
This is the same rating and standard Garmin builts into all their handheld 
outdoor GPS units.

Regards,
Sieghard

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[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Mary Otten
Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2016 8:58 PM
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macvisionar...@freelists.org<mailto:macvisionar...@freelists.org>
Subject: iFixit teardown reveals exactly what replaced the iPhone 7’s headphone 
jack

So they have this new taptic engine, and some plastic piece. Now why did they 
have to take the headphone jack out if Samsung did not in order to make their 
galaxy even more waterproof them apple's device? That is a reasonable question 
I think. I am not arguing for the return of the headphone jack. But it would 
seem that it is not as simple as Apple would have  us think. Further, let us 
hope that this new engine stays around long enough to actually prove useful as 
opposed to the traditional home button. Rumors are already flying about how 
even the button that remains this year, which is attached so to speak to the 
new taptic engine, is going away next year.
Mary
iFixit teardown reveals exactly what replaced the iPhone 7’s headphone jack
9to5Mac  /  Chance Miller




[https://9to5mac.files.wordpress.com/2016/09/screen-shot-2016-09-15-at-11-17-25-pm.png?w=1600&h=1000#038;h=500]<https://9to5mac.com/2016/09/15/ifixit-teardown-reveals-exactly-what-replaced-the-iphone-7s-headphone-jack/>

As it does every year, device repair site iFixit<http://fixit.com> is putting 
all of Apple’s new devices through the teardown process. This year, the site is 
tearing down the iPhone 7, iPhone 7 Plus, and Apple Watch 2. As usual, Apple 
leaves some details regarding the internals of its new devices a secret, but 
iFixit is able to figure out some of those secrets with its teardowns…

In its iPhone 7 Plus 
teardown<https://www.ifixit.com/Teardown/iPhone+7+Plus+Teardown/67384>, iFixit 
notes of the similar teardown process to previous iPhone models. The classic 
Pentalobe screens are still there, while there are still two now-familiar 
screws guard each side of the Lightning connector. One interesting tidbit is 
that the iPhone 7 Plus opens to the side when you remove the display, as seen 
below. This change, iFixit notes, is likely related to the new water resistance 
feature.

Regarding the headphone jack removal, the Taptic Engine is taking up the 
majority of the space where the connectivity was housed, but interestingly 
there’s a simple plastic bumper where the actual cutout used to be. This 
suggests that, while the Taptic Engine was part of the reason for Apple to 
remove the headphone jack, the ability to make the iPhone water resistant was 
likely equally important.

As far as the battery goes, the iPhone 7 Plus features a slightly larger 
battery than its predecessor. The iPhone 6 Plus featured a 2750mAh battery, 
while this year’s model features a 2915mAh battery.

For the Apple 
Watch<https://www.ifixit.com/Teardown/Apple+Watch+Series+2+Teardown/67385>, 
iFixit has just started its teardown so there’s not much to see yet. iFixit has 
also not yet started its teardown

We’ll continue to update this post as the teardown process progresses. In the 
meantime, check out a few images from the process below.
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