As I have said, the aformentioned settings in background app refresh and in 
iTunes and App store, were, are, and always have been turned off. I don't know 
why  it was that, sometimes, when I would check the updates tab in app store, I 
would discover that,  occasionally, an app would have updated without my having 
authorized it to do so. It was not every app, and there seemed to be no rhyme 
or reason which ones did and which ones didn't. It has not happened in the last 
couple days, maybe it has stopped, I hope so. I probably will never know why it 
happened. Whatever. 

Arnold Schmidt 

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On Nov 3, 2016, at 10:49 PM, Sieghard Weitzel <[email protected]> wrote:

Hi Arnold,

This is not correct, Background App Refresh has absolutely nothing to do with 
apps updating automatically, it simply determines whether apps for which 
background app refresh is on do exactly that "refresh when they are in the 
background" and this refers to content only, not to actual apps updating to a 
newer version. Here is what Apple has to say about Background App Refresh:

Use Background App Refresh

After you switch to a different app, some apps run for a short period of time 
before they're set to a suspended state. Apps that are in a suspended state 
aren’t actively in use, open, or taking up system resources.
With Background App Refresh, suspended apps can check for updates and new 
content. 
If you want suspended apps to check for new content, go to Settings > General > 
Background App Refresh and turn on Background App Refresh.
If you quit an app from the app switcher, it might not be able to run or check 
for new content before you open it again.

Whether apps update automatically or wait for you to initiate the update 
manually is entirely determined in Settings > iTunes and App Store.
Note that there is a difference between turning on or off "Apps" and "Updates".
The heading says "Automatic Downloads" and the explanation says "Automatically 
download new purchases, including free, made on other devices".
The items you can turn on or off are this:
Music
Apps
Books and Audio Books
Updates
Maybe this is a bit misleading although it's clear to me. The first 3 refer to 
automatic downloads for purchases made on other devices. For example, if you 
turn on all 3, Music, Apps as well as Books and Audio Books, then if you 
purchase any of these let's say on an ipad or in iTunes on your computer the 
items will automatically download to your iPhone.
The last item, Updates, has nothing to do with purchases made on other devices 
since updates aren't purchases. You can trust me that if you make sure this is 
turned off then none of your apps will update automatically since "Automatic 
downloads for updates" is off. What I am not sure about is whether if you have 
Apps turned on and an app is updated on another device whether that will then 
also happen on your iPhone. I actually doubt it, but I'm not sure. This of 
course only applies anyways if you have Automatic Downloads for apps purchased 
on other devices turned on, if you want to be sure just turn off both Apps and 
Updates.
As for Background App Refresh, you can also turn most of them off, it will save 
you some battery especially if you keep apps open in the app switcher. If you 
are like me and remove everything from the app switcher that you don't use all 
the time several times a day then it doesn't matter anyways, you can have 
Background App Refresh turned on for every single app and as long as said app 
is not actually running in the app switcher (suspended or not) nothing happens.

Regards,
Sieghard

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Arnold Schmidt
Sent: Thursday, November 3, 2016 10:47 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Apps Updating Even When Background Refresh Is Off

That was already off. As I read it, that setting has to do with automaticly  
updating apps that were downloaded or updated on another device on more Apple 
ID. Background App Refresh allows apps already on my device to update in the 
background without my telling them to update. Either way, both settings ′were, 
and are, off, yet, for example, Voice Dream Reader updated yesterday  
automatically. I hope I can get this stopped, before something updates to an 
unaccessible version without my permission. 

Arnold Schmidt 


Sent from  Arnold's  iPhone

On Nov 3, 2016, at 5:03 AM, Rajmund <[email protected]> wrote:

Hello, settings, iTunes and app store. Here, turn off automatic updates.




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> On 2 Nov 2016, at 10:19 pm, Arnold Schmidt <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> Does anybody know how to stop this? Background App Refresh definitely is off, 
> but some apps still update automatically. It started  after updating to  IOS 
> 10. 
> 
> Thanks for any information. 
> 
> Arnold Schmidt 
> 
> Sent from  Arnold's  iPhone
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